hi all, we have been bz about the nandigram death and police atrocities as reported in the media are we ever thinking why police was sent there ? was there any proper administration institution active as it is currently in your locality ? what do we expect when there is no administration in our locality ? yes ... someone has to restore it ? did the media broadcast that there has been no administration in nandigram ? i think yes. we are saying that police open fired. is anybody saying that police also got something in return in the forms of brickbats, pipeguns, sharp instruments used for harvesting the land ? are not we ignoring that the people over there were armed with all these things to counter the police ? why did they took up the arms as well the law and order in their own hands ? we are talking about hitler and stalin ? are not we going to far in making these comments ? is ther anyone talking against industrialisation ? i guess nobody is talking about it. so how can an indistry grow without any land. we are talking about farmers losing their land and hence their families have no option for any income ? but they are also assured of jobs in singur. whereas no such advancements for land aquisition and job assurance has occurred in nandigram till now. just a proposal has been upheld. the opposition were not prepared to counter the govt movements in singur but now they have prepared themselves to counter the govt in nandigram . the farmers have been utilised by using their emotions for thei farmland for some political gains as the opposition had no other political issue to fight for. they had become politically bankrupt and were desparately searching for an issue. is it not the fact that mamta bannerjee was offerring dankuni lands to tatas in exchange of singur and now when dankuni land has been offered to dlf she is opposing to it. any state cannot grow solely based on agri but they have to build their foundation on agri and then build industries for accelaration of the growth. tha govt has reopened some stalled industrial institutions and trying to develop some. the villagers are getting their payments in return to their farmlands. jami bachao udyog committe may have taken up the cause that every farmer gets the fair and good deal based on the wealth of the farmland. if there is no industrila growth how can we offer jobs to the mass that is getting education. we cannot let them starve in unemployment. lots to think about. do not just zero in on nandigram.
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by hiral joshi on Mar 20, 2007 06:16 AM Permalink
So you mean to say if farmers are utilized by opposition to gain political milage, ruling party police and ruling party workers should kill them to restore law and order. Can you throw some more light on those who are arrested believed to have a political affiliation to ruling political party? Media person were also beaten brutally, what for? Restoring law and order? Everyone knows how states grow, see the growth in Gujarat and Maharashtra or southern states. Why for 30 years industries were blackmailed and harrassed and now suddenly farmers are blackmailed and harrassed?
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by devdatto on Mar 20, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
police is always directed by the administration if the administration is held by the ruling party then all over the world the police is directed by the ruling party ... none can ignore this ... but they should not directed by party cadres .. this is also true u are talking about stalling industrial growth for the past 30 years and now you are talking about harrassing farmers gujarat is not a fertile state like bengal and neither is bengal such a large state like maharashtra all the southern states have unfertile lands for offerring to the industry and they are far backward in agri compared to west bengal for a state like bengal which has been heavily dependent on agri for the past 20 yrs it is quite obvious that farmlands have to be sacrificed for the industrial growth as the landscape is mostly farmland still total land in singur and nandigram does not heavily effect the agri growth of west bengal as the state can sustain it with its agri background now comes the question of farmers. do u think they are not paid a handsome amount or should be given proper value based on the wealth and actual price of their land ? instead of educating them about the real consequences of the growth of industry one cannot utilise them for their own political mileage. they are not so educated to understand these things. the emotional game is the cause and bloodbath was the effect. i wanted to stress on this aspect. if someone becomes unruly how is order restored. reading the reports it is clearly understood that women and children were braught in the forefront so that even if any massacre happens it is going to a greater mileage in political terms. what do u think in this matter ? Tata has also aquired land in maharashtra .... the people did no behave like this as the opposition was not mindless and ignorant about industrialisation in that state. Am i r8. Media should not support CPIM but it should also try to bring forward the actual truth instead of blindly opposing CPIM and remaining silent about nandigram being without law and order and administration for the past 2 months
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by abby Das on Mar 20, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
You are talking about law and order.Till last year everything was perfect at nandigram.What made the law and order break down? secondly you said police was attacked.CBI found no police had bullet injuries,none had splinter injuries. Thridly police under any circumstances can fire above the waist.How did the villagers got shot in the chest?was it intentional?Who gave this order of shooting on the chest?
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by Sameek on Mar 20, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
aare pagla, CBI has not made its report public till now. The orders were given by a SP and a Magistrate...
Why they were forcing police to get into their village? any answer? one answer ..to save their land...but the administration had already declared that no SEZ in nandigram then why ???
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by abby Das on Mar 21, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
Sameek The SP and Magistrate gave the order?Have the Govt decleared that officially?Was the police miniter aware of this order?was the order specifically to shoot people at their chest?
POlice was not forced to enter the village.IN fact villagers did not want police to enter the village by cutting the roads.The police entered just to escort the CPM caders to enter the village.Though the CBI enquiry is yet to be finished but they have alreday arrested 10 CPM Caders.
Who decleared there would be no SEZ(OFFICIALY)in Nandigram?Budhdha just made a statement.No written notification from Govt was given earlier.In fact contradicting Budhdha,Laxman Seth always said land would be taken at nandigram only.Binoy Kongar said if people of Nandigram doesn't give land then there life would be "Hell".
and i did check the voice of Siddikulla.It was far far better than that of Mr Binoy Kongar.
