What India will be getting from this deal is nuclear fuel and civilian nuclear technology to produce power.india badly needs it and in order to make India less dependent on Mid East oil,US is using this technology transfer strategy to help its industry and also taking India on its side.USA badly needs an ally in Asia,and India will become a economic giant soon,number 3 after USA and China.The clauses are being added to test the indian resolve,if india accepts,all the better, and more influence of USA.West had tried to master the fast breeder technology,but seeing the expenses involved the cheaper and known route was taken to learn to complete the nuclear cycle using Uranium.India indegeniously developed Fast breeder technology and has mastered it now, nobody is stopping india from developing it.All India should be cautious about is guarantees of continuous supply of Uranium to its new reactors.
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by Kutta on Mar 19, 2007 03:15 AM Permalink
This is the most balanced comment made on this board so far . It is the sum total of my arguments in favor of this deal and also my points against this anti-US paranoia which prevails so strongly in general populace.
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by Raj on Mar 19, 2007 06:17 AM Permalink
Thanks Kutta,
India has already mastered the technology of generating energy through fast breeder reactors, only it needs more expertise to develop it on a large scale.India has not collaborated with any country so far as they attach conditions of inspections and control, so India has so far managed to go alone. With new technology coming to India with the new set up with USA, indian scientists will be free to develop the fast breeder tech further as that is going to help India in the longer run. For shorter term energy solution, uranium fed reactors are required. With new discoveries and research on developing new technologies of running vehicles on hydrogen being developed, soon a solution will be found to get rid of petrol which is the source of pollution and extreme climate change..
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by hello on Mar 19, 2007 06:19 AM Permalink
Either Raj or Kutta may be agents of ISI agents or Chinese, I think. See the actual number of Chinese nuclear weapons 400 was shown reduced figure by Kutta to 130 to match out near to India's. India doesn't have that much also. Believe me we are not in 3 digit number range!!!
Surely, We need to have more nuclear weapons. But that is not our point. We need to get more power (electricity) for our growing population needs!!! Everybody is bothering about fossil fuel & global warming. So, Nuclear will be the best option!!!
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by Raj on Mar 19, 2007 06:46 AM Permalink
Hello, Tell me what is your perception of a nuclear weapon, Is it like a cricket ball and you say, we have 60 cricket balls LOL. The devices tested were a fission device, a low-yield device and a thermonuclear device. The most important one was the middle one ...i.e low yield device...Now hello ji, do you know wat that means? It means a soldier can carry it in a mobile transporter and aim it independently at a large concentration of enemy soldiers or tanks and equipment and can finish it off. Now can you tell me independently how many of these devices india has? and how many of those are thermo nuclear, each one has got a different application, so when kids like you talk of NUMBERS, it makes me laugh, India can have 500 or 600 such collective devices...Are you surprised? Dont be bro. but brush up your knowledge a bit, and to call me a ISI agent is laughable, you know that..
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by Silly on Mar 19, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
I agree with you Raj. We imagine Nuclear devices of something as big as the Hiroshima - Nagasaki bombs (In terms of physical size, not yeild)
Nuclear devices fall under 2 categories 1.Strategic nuclear weapons (with 100 times more destructive force than 1945 atom bombs)
2.Tactical nuclear weapons (with a yield of about 10-15 kilotons).. these would be as deadly as Hiroshima which had a yield of 13 kilotons of TNT and was Uranium 235 based (not very efficient fuel).
The number of total weapons on earth could be much higher than we imagine !
At the time of Cuban missile crisis, Russia had about 3500 nuclear weapons.. and US had over 28,000 nuclear weapons. Imagine the stockpile all the countries have accumulated in these 45 years !
US has currently taken a task of dismantling old weapons and making new more efficient weapons. As per time.com, US has about 12000 strategic weapons deployed on warheads, and about 6000 as backup.
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by animesh kumar on Mar 19, 2007 06:45 AM Permalink
Global warming has less to do with the type of fuel.
Only energy-crisis has to do with fossil fuel. US alone consumes 33% of the fuel and rest 30-40% are consumed by Europe. India hardly contributes (though the contribution is rising slowly). India also uses a lot of domestic production (bombay high etc) unlike US and Europe.
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by hello on Mar 19, 2007 07:31 AM Permalink
In future, the fossil fuel need will be even more!!! So, if we go through the nuclear fuel route, lot of carbon will be saved from the atmosphere. Power cut! Power cut!! Power cut!!! It is slogan of India whenever I call India. But I never heard anything in another countries.
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by Silly on Mar 19, 2007 10:02 AM Permalink
Mr.Hello, By what authority do you give these statements "Either Raj or Kutta may be agents of ISI agents or Chinese, I think. See the actual number of Chinese nuclear weapons 400 was shown reduced figure by Kutta to 130 to match out near to India's. India doesn't have that much also. Believe me we are not in 3 digit number range!!! "
