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Wait for the probe
by Kasyap on Mar 18, 2007 01:32 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Lets wait for the CBI probe to finish and see what comes out.The firing is not definitely proper, but the villagers or outsiders/insiders were also not doing Gandhigiri, If the police or CPIM cadres can walk in without resistance why will they fire. Don't give the crap that they wanted to do some target practice with their new guns.
Nandigram is a law and order situation and need to be dealt with. If the state is wrong it needs to be responsible for it, if the people are wrong they need to be responsible for it.

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  RE:Wait for the probe
by hiral joshi on Mar 18, 2007 02:15 AM   Permalink
Why would cpim cadre will walk? are they buying land? Are they agents to those companies? You seem to be insider, so please enlighten us.

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by Kasyap on Mar 18, 2007 02:22 AM   Permalink
Thye were driven out of their home.. this happens in villages always, sometimes TMC people are driven out, sometimes CPM.. They fight for getting back to their home. You don't need to be an insider to know this, this is newspaper item and very common in villages.

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by hiral joshi on Mar 18, 2007 02:43 AM   Permalink
Its worse than Bihar in WB, how you people are dealing with these goons of both the parties?

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by Uttamkumar on Mar 18, 2007 02:54 AM   Permalink

Out of last 32 years 27 years West Bengal is always WORSE than Bihar.
It just running by the cadre based totalitarian group.
If opponents develops, CPM cadres kill few of them in dark. So opposition stop.
People cannot anything because Cadres know Police for them and Govt is of course
shelter them from all criminal and barbaric act.



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  RE:Wait for the probe
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 18, 2007 01:38 AM   Permalink

When you try to grab peoples land, which is their livelihood - you will face resistance.

Question should be asked: HOW BUDDHA SIGNED DEAL WITH SALIM MONTHS BEFORE WITHOUT HAVING ANY REAL DATA HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE UPROOTED.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHETHER PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO PART WITH THEIR LAND.

WHY CPIM IS COMING ONTO THIS LAND GRAB BUSINESS. LET PRIVATE INVESTORS DIRECTLY DEAL WITH PEOPLE AND BUY FROM THEM.



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  RE:RE:Wait for the probe
by Kasyap on Mar 18, 2007 02:14 AM   Permalink
Nandigram is a law and order situation. There is no land grabbing there, the plan is scrapped.
SEZ is not going to happen there.. this has been categorically stated.
Deal with salim is a general one, it doesn't have any specific land mentioned in it. The state is responsible to give viable land, not nandigram. Choice of Nandigram was made for its proximity to Haldia.
Your other two points are fine, hope the govt will work on that.
But there are technical problems with investors getting land directly on large scale, All state govt helps investors with land, WB is not gujarat or AP or MH that investors will come and invest without very good sops, govt need to intervene and fix some price mechanism which is okay for the investors

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by hiral joshi on Mar 18, 2007 02:18 AM   Permalink
That has been categorically stated only after masacre and debacle by govt. Why WB cant be Like Gujarat or Maharashtra? who is responsible for that? Arent those who are ruling now? for 27 years why didnt they plan industrialisation in a proper manner? Now time has come that people wont vote with out development suddenly leftists woke up and started grabbing land for industrialisation?

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 18, 2007 02:16 AM   Permalink

hehe...

Is WB Buddha & CPIM's Zamindari or what, that they choose 70,000 acres of prime fertile land?

Do we have any rule of law or not?

Anyway, let Buddha stream-roll everybody in West Bengal top grab land. And face the music:)-

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by sree on Mar 18, 2007 02:04 AM   Permalink
Looks like Bhaskar is laying the groundwork for damage control.. he is virtually admitting that the violence was engineered by the criminals...

the only reason that the police were not killed is because they were wearing protective vests. Killing young police officers and making widows of their wives simply because you do not like govt policy is unacceptable.

maybe mr. bhaskar does not have policement in his family but some of us do.


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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 18, 2007 02:11 AM   Permalink

And the area we are talking about (for chemical hub) is 72,000 acres (250 square KM).

That will displace 200,000-400,000 people, 100s of temples and masques.

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by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 18, 2007 02:10 AM   Permalink

Listen man, anywhere in the world, if you go and forcefully displace against their wishes 10s of 1000s of people - they are going to prevent that/

CPIM cadres like you 10 times before trying to speak in these language. Because, its maligning your party more.

Neither you can muzz press the way its done in CHina.

CPIM is so isolated today, NOT A SINGLE PERSON CAME OUT IN ITS SUPPORT.

IN FACT MANY MANY CPIM SUPPORTERS< IDEOLOGUES ARE HUGELY UPSET.

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by Kasyap on Mar 18, 2007 02:19 AM   Permalink
Yes thats the dichotomy.. we want growth like China and not ready to take the hardship. Indians are used to gettting goodies without the pain, we are expecting that will happen forever.
Intellectuals count very little, they give statements, withdraw them and again issue them..they are good at it. Delhi intellectuals who were fighting for Singur are quite now, they have realized.Same will happen tho this nandigram intelellectuals soon.

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by Uttamkumar on Mar 18, 2007 02:11 AM   Permalink

Sree, taking your word of "policement" in the family, I must say, after wearing the police-dress, so called police "REMOVE" their "HUMAN SKIN" and replace with some brutal animal's.


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by abby Das on Mar 27, 2007 05:40 PM   Permalink
sree
I have one point to say.Even if policement wore protective vests,there would have been some signs of bullets brushing on these vests.But nothing could be found on any one of the police man.

Would you answer me how this could happen when the villegers also fired back at the police?

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