It is true we are playing in the hands of Pakistan.We should understand that Gen.Mushraff is a commando and commandos are always upto suprises. 2.Agreed- wvwn if Generals hands are tied by ISI we should plan our stragy very careful 3.Our hands are tied by US as we cannot attack Pakistans terrorist camps We must have good Home minister not Shivraj Patil chamcha of Sonia Gandhi vijendra
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by on Mar 08, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
Got a question. why kashmiri struggle is considered as terrorism and sindh and baloch struggles as freedom struggle by this gentleman known as B. Raman? one need to be realistic
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by Rajesh Kumar on Mar 08, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
Well by, you should understand one thing. What is happening in Kashmir is terrorism because it has support from Pakistan, it has been killing innocent civilians, tourists and is also targeting other states of India. How would you describe the persons who are attacking the Indian Parliament. They are bsically terrorists and that is what Mr. Raman is pointing out.
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by on Mar 08, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
Enlighten me my brother by telling me how do u know that kashmiris want to live with india and balochis dont want to live with pakistan? the only way to find out is by having plebiscite in kashmir and balochistan .......... ohhhh isnt it the same plebiscite which first indian prime minister nehro promised in security council in front of entire world? man the world is the small place where we came around the basic question again and again........ pakis say they are happy to held plebiscite in balochistan to see if balochis really want to live with pak or not? is india ready to held same plebiscite in 12 different states where freedom struggle is going on namely kashmir, khalistan, naga land and assam to name the few........... well my brother i hope u would answer this one
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by PURUSHOTTAM KULKARNI on Mar 08, 2007 10:13 PM Permalink
I WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION. WE IN INDIA BELIEVE THAT ALL RELEGIONS ARE GOOD AND YOU PRACTICE YOUR RELEGION AND LET OTHERS PRACTICE THEIRS. PAKISTAN WAS FORMED BECAUSE MUSLIMS AT THAT TIME WANTED A MUSLIM STATE AND WERE AGAINST HINDUS RULING THEM. THOUGH HINDUS ACCEPTED PARTITION THIS WAS THE LAST TIME WE WNATED PARTITION AS WE BELIEVE IN SECULARISM AND HENCE WE WWOULD NOT PART WITH KASHMIR EVEN IF IT IS MUSLIM MAJORITY. IF WE WNATED WE WOULD HAVE DRIVEN EVERY MUSLIM FROM INDIA AT THE TIME OF PARTITION AND ASKED EVERY MUSLIM TO GO TO PAKISTAN BUT OUR CULTURE IS NOT THE TYPE TO HOUND PEOPLE OUT AND KILL THEM BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELONG TO YOUR RELIGION. BALOCHISTAN IS HAVING MUSLIM MAJORITY AND STILL THEY WANT FREEDOM.ACTUALLY AFTER PARTITION ALL MUSLIMS IN PAKISTAN SHOULD HAVE STAYED TOTGETHER AND PROSPERED AS HINDUS WERE NOT THERE TO TROUBLE THEM.BUT THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. PAKISTAN WILL HAVE TEST OF ITS OWN MEDICINE(HATERD FOR OTHER RELIGIONS) AND GO INTO PIECES SHORTLY. WE DO NOT WANT ENEMITY WITH PAKISTAN AND DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MUSLIMS THEN WHY MUSLIMS ARE GAINST WE HINDUS?
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by Shesh Lak on Mar 09, 2007 12:56 AM Permalink
My dear friend, Nehru left India after creating lot of problem so that his family's future generation can have the luxury of continuing in the politics. And it is notthing new, we all know about Nehru very well, his personal aspiration were greater than country's. And which plebiscite you are talking about? in Kashmir most of native pandits are forcibly kicked out of the state at gun point or killed. In such a condition do you think all the muslims of kashmir represents the state. Who will do justice to those who have lost their loved ones and properties? Its very easy to ask everytime. Try to give atleast once.
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by Suresh Naga on Mar 09, 2007 01:59 AM Permalink
Brother we give you an option, come and stay in India for a couple of months. Then you wont even feel your home. You desire to stay back in India only and you hate your Pak. You want example dekho hamara ghar ka bahu Sonia, ab thak vuska ghar ke bare socha bhi nai, aur phir kabi kabi ghar ko paisa bhejta hey yeha pe kamake. Then you dont even remember what a plebicite is. Maaloom jab Mushraff bhai Delhi aya, vooo vuska ghar dekhne gaya, baad me TajMahal ke mej par bhait ke vuska joru ko yaad kiya tha. Hindustan aisa jagah hey ki, dukhi ko sukhi banayega. Dont worry for plebicite, try to apply for India VISA to enjoy your life.
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by Suresh Naga on Mar 09, 2007 01:39 AM Permalink
My brother,
Yesterday European discussed about plebicite. Better think that Pak is not screwed up there. PIA is blacklisted. Care that first. Let Pak save its territory first and clean up the things later the rest. For your ready information "Mar-07-2007 LONDON: A report by the European Union on Jammu and Kashmir has disfavoured any plebiscite in the state, saying it would be "meaningless" unless Pakistan withdraws all its troops from the parts under it, corrects the demographic changes and ensures return of territory under China." So firt teach Mushraff bhai kya karna, baad me sab.
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by on Mar 08, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
Paki dude,why can't you include rest of the indian states in your list for the freddom struggle???
12 indian states struggling for freedom -- MY ASS
In 1970's you had problem in your Eastern provice that led to creation of Bangladesh, in 1980 you had trouble in your sindh province that led to civil un rest in many parts of Sindh Province, now you got big scale trouble in Balouch it's nothing new in your Land of Pure-isn't right???
Imagine if kashmir going to be a part of Pakistan in future, is that going to stop the honour Killings & Rapes happening in your Country or is it atleast going to make your state owned Pakistan Steel Mill & PIA more profitable???
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by SI on Mar 09, 2007 12:09 AM Permalink
Hey, who r u? do u have little bit of sense. what's ur age? Now most of kashmir is with india. So u have stopped daily rapes in Delhi and nithari childern rape & murder? and dalit women getting naked on daily basis bcoz they entered some temple? indian army killing innocent civilians labelling them as terrorist in kashmir, indian army raping kashmiri women? the list will go..so stop this non-sense and speak with some logic.
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by Saravjeet Singh on Mar 09, 2007 02:43 AM Permalink
hey Mr "On" urf PID(paki in disguise)...tell your nation to withdraw from POK first.and return to J&K the land gifted by your country to china..this was the basic requirement of plebiscite
Also additionally If you don't know, on Indian side nobody from the rest of India is allowed to settle in J&K but it is not so on your country's side. So due to this a dilution in the population from 1947 has happened not to mention the honor-killings & "cleansing"...
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by Sriram Vanamamalai on Mar 08, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
When you throw out the entire Kashmiri population to begin with and infiltrate wthe place with people from across the border and then ask for opnion what will you get? look at Kashmiri Pantits all of them have been driven out. Know your history before commenting.
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by Jas Sand on Mar 09, 2007 05:07 AM Permalink
You guys pretending U aint aware of the pre-condition for the plebicite - That Pak should hand-over the part it is occupying to India?
As long as PoK remains PoK there is no need to conduct any plebicite
