Its completely immature and foolhardy to think that people like Gandhi or Nehru were saints or demigods who cant make mistakes in their life.Tell me the name of any leader whose hast commited blunders in their life.But the world consider persons great leaders of their time for what they did for their country irrespective of their failures.Inability to predict or stop chinas invasion was a grear blunder worse than his kashmir mistake,but its a military failure for a nation who got its freedom just 15yrs ago ,busy with building its nation trusted its bigger and mightier neighbour.Its betryal on part of china after which we were forced to build our military power to save our face 1965 war.In world polictic betrayals do happen all the time ,e.g Pearl Harbour by Japan in WW2 or recently Kargil by pakistan after Lahore bus ride by Bajpayee where we losr 500 of ur brave men within our own territory.Nehru had many vices,but still history will judge him as a great leader with achivements like puting the foundation of a democracy,building industry like Steel,large dam(most of them bulid during his time),Nuclear infrastructure ,Isro,IIts,IIms and many more.Lets not be blind worshippers at the same time lets not ungrateful people.I just want lets know more about our great leaders before reaching any conclusion,but pls avoid soureces like CIA.
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by Ravikumar on Jun 30, 2007 12:16 AM Permalink
Mistakes can be forgiven but not frauds.When an M.P asked Nehru what efforts he doing to bring back land occpied by China Neru replied that the land occupied by them is useless and even grass cant grow there.Then the M.P asked will u remove ur head just because hair does not grow there.
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by Mohan Raj on Jun 30, 2007 12:23 AM Permalink
I know it can be very easy to be a arm chair historian but Nehru does deserve a significant share of the blame for both the external troubles this country faces today .
He wanted to prove that he was a statesman by taking the Kashmir issue to UN and trusted the chinese too much and had given a carte blanche to arrogant Krishna Menon to play with army which lead to the total lack of preparedness .
History is always right and according to it Nehru was always wrong
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by sajit raja on Jun 30, 2007 01:21 AM Permalink
I think You should check what Krishnamenon has done for India before you even say anything against him. I think we should just believe in what we are today rather than looking at some CIA report. What is tha guarantee that they are speaking the truth???
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by Mohan Raj on Jun 30, 2007 02:14 AM Permalink
Whatever he may have done before , building the diplomats ,giving marathon speeches at UN pale into insignificance compared to the defeat our country suffered because of his arrogance and encouragement of sycophancy in the Indian army .
On the balance sheet ,harm brought out by him far exceeds his good deeds
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by Mohan Raj on Jun 30, 2007 12:19 AM Permalink
So what other source should we trust ? We can see that the old fool Nehru died broken hearted because of the defeat .Do you want us to trust the grand daughter in laws and grand sons of the Nehru family to provide us the truth ? What information have they provided about the war than white washing it with a simple 'chinese betrayal' concept
Until the Henderson Brooks report is declassified we have to go with the CIA report and I am pretty sure it is true .
Every school kid in the country will study about how vijayalaxmi pandit addressed the UN general assembly in their text books but they will not even hear about the radio speech Nehru made during the war which was really a farewell speech to people of North Eastern states .
Nehru is a great leader only because he is made out to be so . He is more on the lines of Mao and Lenin who developed personality cults