RE:FACTORS THAT CAN ACT AGAINST ISLAM'S GRWOTH
by Ali Mirza on Jun 17, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
Hmmm quite a plan for destruction of muslim world globally...but by the way what makes u think democracy is a solution ...... Democracry is something where in a fool and intelligent have equal choice of government .... Do u think democracy can be solution all cultural forms of the world..well chinese r doing pretty good without it...isnt it....Democratic princples are good once u have reached the position of superiority and the masses are learned enough...and most of all democracy is nothing but a western ideological tool to gain superiority in the world ..There can be freedom in people without duplicating the western models of democracy..the basic values of western democratic models have always been preexistent in most cultures....
RE:RE:FACTORS THAT CAN ACT AGAINST ISLAM'S GRWOTH
by Ali Mirza on Jun 18, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
I agree to the phenomenon u quoted will bring about a change when choice of religion is not controlled by state.But Dear at the same time i must tell you there is no concept of state in ISLAM as they exists in Gulf!!! The countries like Iran , Saudia , Bahrain , Qatar , UAE were not developed by Islamic rule rather these countries have come into existence in last 100 years after the collapse of european Imperialism. The above fact is relevant to the answer in a larger context hence i mentioned it... Now coming to y a death penalty in muslim states ..I wonder if there is such a thing like Death penalty in Islam when it doesnt promotes the concept of State then how can it promote the concept of death penalty to converters...the Quran says where clearly there is no compulsion in religion .However religion has always been used by empires from time immemorial there were empires who preferred to embrace a religion for there benefits...as the Byzantines , Romans Empires- are Christians , Ummeyed , Safavid , Ottoman -are muslims and similarly Maurya and some other kingdoms in prehistoric India were Hindu empires.... Well in the last I hope I am able to make a point that the mixing of religion with empires have given birth to such rules "Death Penalty" to converters.... I dont want to quote too religiously however there were many people during the early start of ISLAM(hazrat Muhammeds period) where in people would embraceIslam&thenleave it,but there are no records of death penalty fro
RE:FACTORS THAT CAN ACT AGAINST ISLAM'S GRWOTH
by Ali Mirza on Jun 18, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
I agree to the phenomenon u quoted will bring about a change when choice of religion is not controlled by state.But Dear at the same time i must tell you there is no concept of state in present form as it exists in Gulf!!! The countries like Iran , Saudia , Bahrain , Qatar , UAE were not developed by Islamic rule rather these countries have come into existence in last 100 years after the collapse of european Imperialism.... The above fact is relevant to the answer in a larger context hence i mentioned it... Now coming to y a death penalty in muslim states ..I wonder if there is such a thing in Islam when it doesnt promotes the concept of State then how can it promote the concept of death penalty to converters...the Quran says where clearly there is no compulsion in religion .However religion has always been used by empires from time immemorial there were empires who preferred to emrace a religion for there benefits...as the Byzantines , Romans Empires- are Christians , Ummeyed , Safavid , Ottoman -are muslims and similarly Maurya and some other kingdoms in prehistoric India were Hindu empires.... Well in the last I hope I am able to make a point that the mixing of religion with empires have given birth to such rules "Death Penalty" to converters.... I dont want to quote too religiously however there were many people during the early start of ISLAM(hazrat Muhammeds period) where in people would embrace Islam&thenleave it .but there are no records of death penalty from thattime
RE:FACTORS THAT CAN ACT AGAINST ISLAM'S GRWOTH
by A Chaterjee on Jun 17, 2007 11:58 PM Permalink
DETECTIVE If it happens.. all hindus (Dalits) become to Christians. i am afraid the hinduism will take place in museums
