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Tale of a traitor. .. contined
by Kumar on Jun 08, 2007 09:46 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Nobody teaches us how Hemu a vaishya king who defeated Humayon (Akbar's father)
and briefly ended the Mughal empire was cheated by Brahmins and Kshatrias since a vaishya cannot be made a king. The alignment of these
people with the Mughals cost Hemu his life and put India on track for Mughal rule. Shivaji who belong to the vegetable growing kunbi
OBC caste was not even allowed to become king by the Brahmins, he searched far and wide to find that one Brahmin who can crown him king
(though a better approach would have been to crown himself a chatrapati without a Brahmin but then those were the days when almost
everyone was uneducated and this too revolutionary approach even for him). The Maratha emperor Sahuji Maharaj was one of the great social
reformers of his time. This was not liked by the people who wanted to maintain their caste superiority and national interests. Finally the
Peshwa Brahmin ministers aligned with the British and cheated the Maratha emperors out of power and put India on track for British rule.
Why did these guys didn't allow the other castes to get an education? Because this was their trick to cheat a noble, honest yet uneducated
king out of power and therby prevent reform in the society.

Hinduism is our common heritage and lot of these fairer skin leaders of Hinduism are migrants from Arabia. I appeal to the true Hindus to take
back our country from all the fanatic elements and make an India that is educated, healthy, just, ethical, pe

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  RE:Tale of a traitor. .. contined
by Kumar on Jun 08, 2007 09:49 PM   Permalink
Hinduism is our common heritage and lot of these fairer skin leaders of Hinduism are migrants from Arabia. I appeal to the true Hindus to take
back our country from all the fanatic elements and make an India that is educated, healthy, just, ethical, peaceful, tolerant, considerate and happy.


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  RE:RE:Tale of a traitor. .. contined
by Kumar on Jun 08, 2007 09:51 PM   Permalink
Hinduism is not a religion, it's a way of life. This is what the supreme court of India said.
Hinduism is a way of life of the multiple cultures that lived in India before the British and the Muslims and the non-Muslim Arabs came here. The foreigners coined the term Hinduism.

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  RE:Tale of a traitor. .. contined
by Surya K on Jun 09, 2007 11:03 AM   Permalink
Is the supreme court is a religious body to decide what is religion. Please keep in mind Buddism was a wide spread religion in India. why did it disappear altogather from India. Its because of the revival of Hinduism. So Buddhism was treated as a religion and was eliminated.

Please note that we have high dose of secularism, we lack a clear understanding of our own religion. Truly we are not practicing our religion in a true sense nor those Judges and hence we cannot conclude that Hinduism is a way life and not a religion.

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  RE:Tale of a traitor. .. contined
by Kumar on Jun 09, 2007 07:38 PM   Permalink
Surya, read about Pusyamitra Sunga and you will know how this 'revival' of Hinduism occured.

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by SATYAPAL on Jun 11, 2007 11:25 AM   Permalink
I subscribe to your well placed views. Dear in those times, the most thought out logics / common and practicable concepts with manouvring in one's favour were adopted. when Individuals (Brahimsn/ Kashtriyas / or any other creed/ cast ) surrrnder himself to a bigger logic, then they cease to exist spiritually but continue physically and the suppressed ones whose confidences /views are not taken care of, are constrained to act in the affirmative and surface in the times to come. Unawakened Individuals suffer from the concept of being the world themselves and relate themselves with superior logic and treat the other individuals only substance/ other being / an object of hatred arising out of their predetermined or borrowed concepts/ logic.

All revolutions / mutinys/ group achieved concepts/ objectives have failed to produced the desires results, an individuals has to transform himself/ herself with a bigger perspective and grow abvoe these contradicitons.

To be an individual of non-controverisal perception/ living order and making it transparnt in one's life is matter requring long drawn process of logic to be percieved and practices. The Individual has to grind himself through the awakening truths / appearing to be truth but still not crystal clear. The more one tries to achieve the end result of logic early, more are the chances of having contraverisal perception in the logic.

Rajneesh - an awakened concience on the plant ventured and drew the process of s

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by Anand Iyer on Jun 09, 2007 12:19 PM   Permalink
tANX FOR EXPOSING rascals.

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  RE:RE:Tale of a traitor. .. contined
by Kumar on Jun 09, 2007 07:45 PM   Permalink
Hiten Patel, Buddist never disbanded the army. The Mauryans controlled their empire quite well and Asoka installed his stone pillars preaching peace across his empire. The invasion happened when the Sunga dynasty took over.
Yes the Buddhist were Hindus before they became Buddhist yet the Brahmins hated them so, people from their own country refined their religion to make it more tolerant and scientific and these guys wanted to undo everything just like terrorists want to undo civilization and go back to the 7th century?
You can see the behavior of the decendants of Pusyamitra Sunga even now. Go to Bihar and see who commits the majority crime. Not only white collor crime but perfectly blue collar violent crimes.

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