U guys make life difficult for reformist hindus. Strictly speaking u guys have no business to expect entry in hindu temples. Hindus r not allowed in Mecca . This is stritly hindus' internal matter. By posting u guys r diverting energies of eformist hindus like myself, Dheeraj and Bhaskar. U guys abuse hinduism without justification. So we r also constrained to tell u what u guys do. So leave this forum for us hindus. We will debate pros and cons and determine the course of action to be taken.
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 05:14 PM Permalink
If you guys stick to the topic then we don't want to interfere. But while discussing you are spitting venom against other religions.
RE:RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by Anand Iyer on Jun 07, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
Things spun out of control only when u guys came on Board. I was debating Dheearaj and others. See my posts. I told them what others do we neednot necessarily imitate. We should do good things regardless of what others do. U Xtians and muslims made debate go out of control.
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 05:35 PM Permalink
Read the following messages posted earlier in the day. Why is that a fashion to insult Hindus, or act against Hindu interests. by sai ganesh on Jun 06, 2007 08:16 PM | Hide replies
Why dont people criticize or talk about Islam, they are afraid of Islam because Muslims will kill them if they talk bad about them.
Fine ! Great Idea by anand padmarajan on Jun 06, 2007 07:59 PM | Hide replies
Why only a law that says everyone can enter the temple. Why not a law which says any one can enter any place of worship.. so i can enter a MOSQUE and CHURCH and there should be no discrimination for any who enters any place of worship
Don't you all think this is being "SECULAR?"
Popes and Priests the Same - Autocratic by Bala Saaheb on Jun 06, 2007 08:21 PM | Hide replies
Quotes from the Priest (Pope)
"We are supposed to be in a paternal relationship -- pithrusthanam, the position of father (pope)" funds for haj and christian missionaries by vinoth chandrasekar on Jun 06, 2007 08:46 PM | Hide replies i forgot to touch andhra, the idiotic YSR, he is a christian, he uses tiupathi money for HAJ and missionaries. every where in india, imams and fathers get salary where hindu priest gets hardly 200 or 300 which is nothing, for haj and jerusalem yatras govt gives money , not for temples...
Do you think these messages are relevant to the topic. See someone attacks one's religion naturally one will try to express his views. That is what happened.
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by Anand Iyer on Jun 07, 2007 05:41 PM Permalink
Yeah! All these started coming in only when Xtians and muslims came on board.
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 07, 2007 11:40 PM Permalink
Anand, you've been making some very good points of late. But I have an objection to the above message in particular.
It is ok to think that after those 4-5 guys who happen to be christians and muslims came, the debate degenerated. But I think it will be much better if we use their names and treat them as individuals than branding them as christians and muslims. We don't want all hindus to be branded bad just because some hindu somewhere commits a crime, do we?
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by rakarapu kumar on Jun 07, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
Dear anand We are the followers of JESUS CHRIST and so we are CHRISTIANS and not Xtians as you mentioned.please think twice before making a statement
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by RATIONALIST on Jun 07, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
Yes, I agree with you partially, Anand.
This the beauty of country like India. Unity in Diversity. Hindus should be in their temples, muslims in their mosques, and christians in their churches, but everyone should be united.
But the point is, if you examine the entire rediff board, the percentage of abuse to different religions is like this (simply check the 357 messages):
Abuse to Muslims: 70% Abuse to Hindus: 20% Abuse to Christians: 10%
So, if the abuse to any community stops, then there can be a rational and sane discussion.
All these discussion are leading to no where.
Just abuse, abuse and more abuse. I think people will now stay on the content of the topic and reply.
I have also an another recommendation:
The writer of the articles in rediff.com is writing statements, without any valid proofs. This is one way communication. He writes some sane or insane article and runs away.
The questions asked in the forum should be answerable by the Writer of the Article. Where is he? Why is he not coming into the scenario to reply to some valid questions posted by the rediff.com members.
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by Vas on Jun 07, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
Its just not the Rediff readers that have criticisms against the muslims, but the whole world (except the muslim world of course), because the muslims, wherever they live, are seen as being unreasonable, difficult, intolerant of other religions, biased, aggressive, violent, and having no moral boundaries. I live in Europe and know how much the muslims are hated by everyone - people of all other religions, atheists, agnostics, and just about every other social group or community. How sad it must be, to belong to a community that everyone hates, fears and don't want anywhere near them! Aren't you muslims ashamed of yourselves, or are you proud to be the most hated group in the world?
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by Anand Iyer on Jun 07, 2007 05:00 PM Permalink
There r these so-called abuses to muslims and christains becoz they unjustifiable critise huindu religion without even quoting chapter and verse of hindu scriptures.
The issue here is not hindu religion but the action of a priest of a temple. So what business had muslims and xtians to interfere. If u see, most posts against muslims and xtians were actions which they do. What is abuse in pointing out facts. Is citing verses of Quran "abuse"against muslims?????
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 07, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
Anand I dont believe how can you say this.. you said Gita preaches all humankind is equal. then why you are against Muslims and Xtians?? LOL.
RE:RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by Anand Iyer on Jun 07, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
I am against all wrong things and criticise them .See my posts criticising the priests' actions. U non-hindus messed things up by mudslinging at hindu religion whereas issie was the action of a particular person.
So I had to respond by pointing out things in Xtianity and Islam.
RE:Dear muslims and Xtians
by SHAHRUKH NIZAMI on Jun 09, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
clarify who are "ignorant evil people"? who belives in one god are ignorant aur who believes in stones, animals, etc.. etc.. things are ignorant?