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by on Jun 06, 2007 06:15 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

places of worship should be free for all who wants to go there and pray with a pure heart. irrespective of his caste, religion and colour.

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by anushree nair on Jun 06, 2007 06:35 PM   Permalink
i truly agree. As a matter of fact even females should b allowed in masjid

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by George Abraham on Jun 07, 2007 03:21 PM   Permalink
Yes we cannot understand because christianity gives importance to purification of mind.

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by Anand Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 06:51 PM   Permalink
Lord Krishna says in Chapter No.9, verse no.29 of Bhagvad Gita"I am equally present in all beings;None is der to me nor none is hated by me". When he says that all r equal in his eyes, who dare violate his comamnd and prevent entry of any devotee?
Also See chapter 12 where he says that he expects his true devotee to be friendly and compassionate towards one and all. "ASdvaishta sarva bhutanam maitaha karunaevacha"



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by Yerra Burra on Jun 06, 2007 07:07 PM   Permalink
Dear Anand,

It stands to reason that Lord Krishna is present in all beings. There is no doubt about it. It does not stand to reason to insist on flouting rules/practices/traditions of thousands year old temples and hurting the feelings of millions of Hindus.

The respected Tantri is not arrogant, it is the Mantri who is arrogant. A temple is not a government office where all and sundry will fall at the feet of the Mantri.

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by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 07:09 PM   Permalink

Good, I agree with you!


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by anil on Jun 15, 2007 06:04 PM   Permalink
excellent yerra burra u rightly said

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by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 06:55 PM   Permalink

Come on, Anand!

You are not getting the point!

I am tired!


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by serious things on Jun 06, 2007 07:07 PM   Permalink
well, i fully agree with you people: my point is this- wipe out the caste system, then hinduism will be the best ever religion for the human kind

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by Anand Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 07:03 PM   Permalink
No. I do get your point. What I am saying is that Gita preaches rael eqaulity of all mankind not just merely fraternity of all hindus. In cointrast see Prophet Muhammad's speech which only says taht muslims r brothers of each other and all muslims constitute one brotherhood. Google and read his speech.

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by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 07:08 PM   Permalink

OK, fine, Anand!



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by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 07:04 PM   Permalink

Then, let me argue with you in a different way.

I too read Bhagawad Gita and I agree with what you quoted from Gita.

If the Lord does not hate anyone, why did he ask Pandavas to kill Kauravas? There is a reason, right? Kauravas did not respond favourably to many of his peace attempts and they were bad. So, he wanted them to be killed, even though "none is hated by me".

Similarly, just because the Lord does not hate anyone, it does not mean that everyone should be allowed inside a temple. It is a different matter.

For the sake of arguing, will everyone be allowed to enter heaven? No. Only those who do good deeds will be allowed to enter heaven.

Similarly, a temple has its own rules.

A temple is not merely a cement building, where a stone is decorated with flowers and strange Samskrit sounds are made.

It has much more to it.

Just as you read Bhagawad Gita, I suggest you also read Osho's (Rajaneesh of Pune) book called "Hidden Mysteries", which explains some of the secrets of majestic temples and explains why temples are the way they are.

Before I read that book by Osho, I too thought that a temple is merely a brick building and visiting a temple is a routine ritual.

There is very little all of us know about Hinduism.

Let us have an open mind. Let us have the humility to not question some of the things.

Caste system is surely bad, but not this.


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by Anand Iyer on Jun 06, 2007 07:11 PM   Permalink
I will raed that book of Osho. Thanx for the reference.

The Pandavas were to kill Kauravas only if necessary (i.e. if they didnot surrender or flee).(See rules agreed between two sides in Mahabharata). But even that (which was duty of a soldier) has to be done without hatred. One should not for example jump up in joy after killing the enemy. Nor u should mutilate his body etc. which our friendly neighbours love to do .

Another thing if enemy surrenders, he is not to be killed . But adherents of some other religion killed surrendered jews. Find out more about this.

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by Dheeraj Akula on Jun 06, 2007 06:29 PM   Permalink

Places of worship are not public parks.

They are not exhibition grounds.

A place of worship may have certain rules and customs, which others may not like to follow.

For example, the wife of Mr. Vayalar Ravi complained on NDTV program that she is not comfortable by the dress code (wearing a saree and so on) imposed by the temple. Today they will not like dress code, tomorrow they will not like Harathi and Sanskrit chants.

Moreover, we have very nice, pious Christians, who want to save all of us by evangelising us. Already they created nuisance near a few Hindu temples.

So, it is better to avoid complications. Let us not allow non-Hindus into temples.

Anyway, Christians and Muslims criticise "idol worship", "stone goids", "animal gods" and "superstitions" of Hinduism. So, why should they be allowed into Hindu temples?


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by Subrahmshu Bhattacharya on Jun 07, 2007 03:37 PM   Permalink
I dont like the dress code in many Kerala temples that I must be barechested. In all the pushing and pulling that goes on in Guruvayoor for eg:, it is not a healthy practise to mingle sweat with all and sundry around you. Point is one must change with times, change must be applied with reason and thought. Not with rabid fanaticism and blind faith. God gave you intellect to apply it.

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