RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
I read in some Wikipedia page that Sufism has nothing to do with Prophet?
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 28, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
You r correct krisnan . Suffisim is not liked by Arabs. It is prevelant in Indian subcontinent and is being treated as unislamic in Pakistan
RE:RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
Vinay i am from pakistan and its not unislamic!!!!but if u are gonna ask the grave of a Sufi for mercy ITS WRONG even by sufis!meet any sufi he wud tell u he is nothing and cant give u nothing!!!but people take them as gods coz in subcontinent any thing is taken as god,in india and pakistan this sufism has been misinterpreted but its a part of life as every Sufi says "one God and mohammad is his last prophet" and this lineage in islam starts from the last caliph HAzrat Ali (RA)!!!ok SHARIA is LOGIC in islam and SUFISM is ISHQ unconditonal love for Almighty and Mohammads of springs,all sufis have lineages meeting with Mohammand(PBUH)!in arab world the law is sharia that is right as well,sufism is right as well if practised the way sufis practised it!they never bent in front of any one except the God!!!so they told people dun bend in front of them!but as time passed ppl took them as icons and sufism got polluted!but a true sufi will never do tht!ull find many in india and millions in pakistan!
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
Sufism does not precede islam! a Sufi being a muslim like Ajmer sharif, Qalandar's, DaaTa darbar in lahore many in multan and in india talk about One God and Muhammad their prophet,and spread this message by love!they spoke against social injustice and spread message of islam in subcontinent!it was here that many converted not the swords commonly people refer to! the basic message of islam is LOGIC the messaage by a Sufi is ISHQ(unconditional unlogical love) one proves it self thru logic but sufi does it by belief and love for the God and his messenger!!!but people nowadays has taken them as icons! that is even wrong by Sufi law as it forbids any one kneeling for them as they themslevs said that they are nuffin jus common men and kneel for the God and dun take them as icons!
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:19 PM Permalink
Very well.If the principles are followed by all Muslims everyone is happy.WHAT HAS GONE WRONG?Where is the LOVE? Saudi Arabia desists Sufism.Dara Shikoh was done in by bas---d Aurangazeb because he said Hinduism and Islam are like twin brothers.
RE:RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by on Jul 28, 2007 11:26 PM Permalink
aurangzeb was a king!kingship is forbiddin in islam!saudia has heirship thats forbidden in islam! they are political moves!what aurangzeb did was was not for islam he did it for his own thrown!he even jailed his own father?isnt it? thats love for worldly things! Sufi takes the wolrd as temporary!they call God and Mohammad as their icons and themslves considers as sinners!all sufi message is just keep telling people of all faiths keep telling and they will change! its a huge topic my frnd! with fine lines! dont mingle them!as Sufism not an inch is against islam not an inch!they are replica!one with law and one with love!
RE:RE:RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by krishnan js on Jul 28, 2007 11:32 PM Permalink
Agreed Agreed.But Aurangazeb is supposed to have ruled by Shariat and is revered as a proud Muslim.In India we never hear Muslims(the Imams od Delhi,Deoband etc) against Terrorism.Why? Gentleman you are very refreshing.
RE:Does Sufism precede Islam?
by Samira Khan on Jul 29, 2007 12:11 AM Permalink
Krishnan, think logically, whether it is the hindu king in Nepal or Aurangazeb they were all rulers who cared about their position, they did not care of Islam or Hinduism etc
