RE:Sense of victimization
by vikas sethi on Jul 29, 2007 11:07 PM Permalink
Mythology is a myth. Ur reply reveals ur sense of proportion. No wonder u people never debate substance. Grow up Baby.
RE:Sense of victimization
by Bhaumik on Jul 30, 2007 04:28 AM Permalink
'It has now been discarded by most american universities and removed from syllabus for lack of evidence.' This is an incredible claim! In fact a simple lie..(There were some attempts to smuggle in 'indigenous Aryan' theory by some misguided upper class indians. But the attempt failed).
Americans, their universities, where this area of history is taought, go by the prevalent, more likely theory of Aryan invasion.Americans are least bothered whether Aryans invaded India or not.
But it seems it matters to some Indians, who feel they are less Indians unless they prove their weird theory of indigenous Aryan.
One does not have to be Aryan to be Indian. Vast majority of Indians do not claim to be Aryans How should it matter to them, whether Aryans came from outside or not?
All products creativity in arts and sciences in India belong to Indians, not to Aryans. Hindus are not Aryans, but proud indigenous Indians.
RE:RE:Sense of victimization
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
The Kaaba is a large structure, roughly the shape of a cube, which is located in the Holy Mosque in Mecca. Muslims face the direction of the Kaaba, known as the Qibla during their prayers.At the time of the Prophet, people even stood on the Kaaba and gave the adhaan or the call to prayer. One may ask those who allege that Muslims worship the Kaaba; does an idol worshipper ever stand on the idol he worships? In order to unite Muslims in their worship of the One True God, Muslims, wherever they may be, are asked to face in only one direction i.e. towards the Kaaba.When the Muslims visit the Holy Mosque in Makkah, they perform tawaf or circumambulation round the Kaaba. This act symbolizes the belief and worship of One God. Just as every circle has one centre, so also there is only one Allah (swt) worthy of worship.Regarding the black stone, Hajr-e-Aswad, Umar the illustrious companion of the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him), said:"I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (peace be upon him) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you". [Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Chapter 56, Tradition No. 675].Thus, it is important to note that though Muslims face the Kaaba during prayers, they do not worship the Kaaba. Muslims worship and bow to none but Allah.
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by vikas sethi on Jul 29, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
I have not come across any muslim giving clarification on religion. Instead they take refuge under Hindu names & try to spread malice. It is a typical mindset.They cannot debate only use abusive language or threaten to kill.
RE:Sense of victimization
by vikas sethi on Jul 29, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
Buddy come out on Religion and do not quote from Mythology. Every religion has mythology and it is termed so bcoz it is myth.
RE:Sense of victimization
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
Traditionally Muslims have treated other religions with respect, even when they were in a position to use force.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. During these 800 years, until Muslims were finally forced out by the crusaders, non-Muslims flourished in Spain.Muslims have ruled Arabia for 1400 years, except for brief periods of British and French rule. Yet there are today 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians whose families have been Christians going back several generations.The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. They had the power to forcibly convert each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India is non-Muslim. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness to the fact that Islam was not spread by the sword.Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia, and to the East coast of Africa ?"Today the fastest growing religion in America and in Europe is Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers? Indeed, it is the sword of the intellect; the sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Glorious Qur'an says:"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur'an 16:
