RE:Islam
by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
Regarding the black stone, Hajr-e-Aswad, Umar the illustrious companion of the Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him), said:"I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (peace be upon him) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you".[Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Chapter 56, Tradition No. 675].Thus, it is important to note that though Muslims face the Kaaba during prayers, they do not worship the Kaaba. Muslims worship and bow to none but Allah.
RE:RE:Islam
by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Idol worship is disallowed in Islam.But why did Mohammad kiss this stone when he cleared the Kaaba of all other idols.Bcoz it was believed to have fallen from Heaven. Secondly, u r wrong when u say muslims stand on that stone. It is placed on the Kaaba & this is the place from where muslims begin what Mr. Sayyed calls the circumambulation round the Kaaba. So, The Kaaba is a stone building covered with a black tarp. On this is the black stone (in a silver enclosure)that apparently broke upon impact. I would say this amounts to idol worship but muslims may disagree. It is a matter of personal belief and faith.
But again where in quran is it mentioned to run around the kabba 7 times and that this is pleases Allah???
RE:Islam
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
Mr.Sethi,Everything is recorded in our Holy Quran & Hadiths about it.You can get in the market everything easily in your language.Muslims never worshipped anyone other than Allah.Some of our holy places are visited b'coz pilgrims wants to get the feel of it.Islam is monotheism religion & it is a fact.
RE:RE:Islam
by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
U have not clarified the point but r going round the bush.Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Chapter 56, Tradition No. 675].This is exactly what I am pointing out. I have quoted from ur quotes. Why did Mohammad kiss the black stone when idol worship is banned.
U mention of the circumambulation round the Kaaba and everyone knows it. But again where in quran is it mentioned to run around the kabba 7 times and that this is pleases Allah??? Please help in the verses bcoz u have been quoting from the Quran. Give the verse. and do not report this for abuse if u r sincere.
U r coping fro some website all the quotes. When I ask you to clarify, u run away from the board and report for abuse. It is clear u have nothing to say on this.
RE:RE:Islam
by anil on Jul 30, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
mr ismail u have read the koran pls do not take or give any excuse that it is written in koran so and so pls reply to vilkas if u have an answer or u can say that u will come back later with an answer whats ur problem in accepting thing u dont know
RE:RE:Islam
by Srini on Jul 30, 2007 02:25 PM Permalink
Mr Sayyed,If we read and interpret Islam from the book available in our language in the market, than you would cry hoarse that the interpretation is wrong and the original arabic verse is different. So don't ever suggest local translations and cry hoarse over its interpretation.
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by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
Mr Srini,everything is easily available in the market.But what one need is Open mind to read it.You People have been brought up hating Islam.So it will take time for your mind to accept the fact.First Clean your mind,remove all the hatred & then read it without any Bias.Inshallah You will Know the Fact.Facts are always Hard to Digest.Mind u!!
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by anil on Jul 30, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
are srini have u seen that below their is no reply button how clever of the moderator sayyed is beating about the bush he has not yet ansewerd the question of vikas regarding calrification keeps repeating that it is available in books if that is the case why he is in this form explainingh about islam i think what u said is right he may b coping some verse form net and pasting it in hinuism whenever a new thing comes in religion or any other form there is heavy dbate but here he is not ready for that but keeps parroting t.
a;so note its intersting that its ablack stone fallen from heaven who saw taht ? i dont know but its balck and not white , yellow or green or any other clour and if u r aware what is shivalinga stone its black
