RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 08:58 AM Permalink
Let us analyze this issue in greater detail: 1. Peace is ingrained in Islam Islam comes from the root word %u2018Salaam', which means peace. It also means submitting one's will to Allah (swt). The word %u2018Salaam%u2019 is also an attribute of God. In this context, it means %u2018The Giver of Peace%u2019. Muslims greet each other with %u2018Salams%u2019 which translates to wishing peace for one another.Thus peace is a goal that Muslims are required to strive for, in their own selves, in their families and in their communities
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 09:00 AM Permalink
2. History of Tolerance and Mutual Respect The Glorious Qur%u2019an says: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error" [Al-Qur'an 2:256]Traditionally Muslims have treated other religions with respect, even when they were in a position to use force.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. During these 800 years, until Muslims were finally forced out by the crusaders, non-Muslims flourished in Spain. Muslims have ruled Arabia for 1400 years, except for brief periods of British and French rule. Yet there are today 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians whose families have been Christians going back several generations. The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. They had the power to forcibly convert each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India is non-Muslim. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness to the fact that Islam was not spread by the sword.
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
If My friend, Mr. Sayyad quotes verse 2:256, why does he not cite the following from the Qur%u2019an: "%u2026.fight and slay the Pagans whenever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)" [Sura Tauba. (IX:5)]. There is, in the same verse, advice to relent but only if the adversary becomes true Muslims, " if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity%u2026." . A comparable verse is: " Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" [Sura Tauba ( IX:29)] Do not talk in isolation.
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Navratan Sethia on Jul 30, 2007 09:29 AM Permalink
why are you exiting about islam. this is not a religion. islamic system is the way of life for terrorist, looters, anti nationals, murders, . please not compare with religion with islam.
RE:RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 06:14 PM Permalink
Traditionally Muslims have treated other religions with respect, even when they were in a position to use force.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. During these 800 years, until Muslims were finally forced out by the crusaders, non-Muslims flourished in Spain. Muslims have ruled Arabia for 1400 years, except for brief periods of British and French rule. Yet there are today 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians whose families have been Christians going back several generations. The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. They had the power to forcibly convert each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India is non-Muslim. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness to the fact that Islam was not spread by the sword.
RE:RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by JGN on Jul 30, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Policy of Muslim rulers in India - The general policy of most of the rulers during the 700 years of Muslim occupation of India was to systematically replace the fabric of Hindu society and culture with a Muslim culture. They tried to destroy Indian religions language, places of knowledge (universities e.g Nalanda were totally destroyed by Muslims). They destroyed and desecrated places of thousands of temples including Somnath, Mathura, Benaras, Ayodhaya, Kannauj, Thaneswar and in other places. There was wholesale slaughter of the monks and priests and innocent Hindus with the aim to wipe out the intellectual bedrock of the people they overran.
The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease and were never able to rule it entirely. There was a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and Sikhs led this struggle in North India. In the South this struggle was embodied in the Vijayanagar Empire. This struggle culminated when the Marathas ended the Muslim domination of India.
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
If My Sayyad quotes verse 2:256, why does he not cite the following from the Qur%u2019an: "%u2026.fight and slay the Pagans whenever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)" [Sura Tauba. (IX:5)]. There is, in the same verse, advice to relent but only if the adversary becomes true Muslims, " if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity%u2026." . A comparable verse is: " Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" [Sura Tauba ( IX:29)] Do not talk in isolation.
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 08:56 AM Permalink
One of the bizarre myths perpetuated about Islam, during the centuries of mistrust during and after the Crusades, is that Muslim armies forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword. Unfortunately this myth survives to this day.Many Western scholars have now repudiated this myth. The great historian De Lacy O%u2019Leary wrote in %u201CIslam At the Cross-roads%u201D "History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated."The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book "Heroes and Hero worship", refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: "The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man's head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can."
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Sharad on Jul 30, 2007 09:04 AM Permalink
India is classic case of conversion by force. The Islamic rulers starting with Babur invaded India, plundered the nation, and forcibly converted (killed those who wouldn't convert and opposed them). You the product of such a conversion. Your forefathers were the first victims. Let us not kid ourselves as to what happened. We are grown ups now.
RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Jul 30, 2007 09:02 AM Permalink
3. The Rapid Spread of Islam An article in Reader's Digest %u2018Almanac', year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in %u2018The Plain Truth' magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, %u201CWhich war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam?%u201DIndonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. May one ask, "Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia, and to the East coast of Africa ?"Today the fastest growing religion in America and in Europe is Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers? Indeed, it is the sword of the intellect; the sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Glorious Qur'an says:"Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." [Al-Qur'an 16:125]
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by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
How did muslim religion spread in India & its part that is now Pakistan.Parsis from Persian Iran r still settled in India, Christian Syria, Egypt,Africa. Check history of any region honestly. Not only their religion but also the local culture was destroyed. How did Buddha statues come in Afghanistan that were recently destroyed by Taliban. Clerics & people in Christian Syria were murdered, tortured and raped kept as harams & they later converted to muslim religion as they could not escape & there was no option left.The children frm these became muslims. It is the same story everywhere. It is better we not discuss these Mr. Sayyad. You will not like it and also the debate would not remain civilised. Suffice to say, Muslim religion was spread with Quran in one hand and Sword in the other. And all this started at the time of Mohammad himself. Check all his battles and details of the war booty. I prefer not to point further to these for obvious reasons which as a muslim you must be aware of.
RE:RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by vikas sethi on Jul 30, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
When u talk of Growth of Islam, also mention that once a muslim, he cannot leave the religion. If he does, he is killed. All muslim nations have Apostate laws. If muslims marry non muslims then they compulsorily have to covert their spouse to muslims. So Islam is a one way traffic. As of today, what you do not tell is Arabs in large numbers migrate to west & secretly convert. More than 30% of the people in Muslim Iran are muslims only in name. Fear of Death prevents them from openly coming out as there is totalitarian regime in Iran. Do not spread misinformation bcoz the mulla who has never stepped out of his masjid says so. When a media article is favourable, you quote from it. When it is not favourable (most of the time), u say media is anti Islam. When u urself say Islam is passing thru rough times worldwide, who will in such times leave his religion & turn to Islam. Use commonsense to answer this question.
RE:RE:ISLAM IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by JGN on Jul 30, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Mr. Ismail Sayyed, any amount of waxing eloquent will not erase the harsh realities of history. I have first hand information about the soldiers of Tippu Sultan converting hindus into Islam by force of sword in British Malabar (from Kasaragod to Malappuram along the present NH-17).
The Koran is inherently violent and that is the reason for the billigerance of their followers. A few scattered verses on religious tolerance will not change the fact.
