Dear Friends, In this Message Board, I can see a lot of generalizing going on... Painting People with the same Brush... That is not going to help. As Rightly said, Muslims will be always identified as Muslims and not as a Single Man... Even if it is GOOD or BAD, it is our fate that the whole community will be blamed.. 1) Arshad Mehta corrupting Stock Market will be called as a Criminal but Azharuddin will be called as Desh Drohi ?? 2) Hindu Fanatics responsible for killing Innocents will be called as Patriots and petty muslim criminals will be coined as Terrorists ?? 3) Super Power Military action of US, still killling Thousands of Muslims will be Justified.. and they will not be called as Christians ... but Iraqis creating resistance will be called as Terrorists... 4) LTTE & ULFA will be called as Militants only... The list goes on .... But the Irony is coding the entire community for some criminals is not going to Help the Integrity of India... After all if we have a problem with one Eye the entire Body is going to Suffer... Before blaming and generalizing please make sure that it is not a Community is getting blamed indirectly India as a country is blamed..
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by Strategic Ventures on Jul 17, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
My dear friend you have a lot of hatred in your mind. Shed that hatred, open your eyes and heart and look at the whole picture. No one will blame any one simply. Islamists are now looked down because the majority of good people in Islam are still silently watching the terrorists killing people and sometimes-even people from their own religion. Why are they silent? Why are they not helping the governments catch terrorists who could be their brothers or neighbors, like the case of kafeel? Today Iran is bringing out games to make their people martyrs! How bad will these people go to make their brothers die for nothing? I think either Islam is misunderstood or it will be forced to change by the people within. The change has to be brought out by the good people in Islam. Talking about Azzaruddin, he is a Muslim who was given the most coveted position of the captain of India! Where is the discrimination here by the majority? He was involved in hanky panky and when questioned, he cries that because he is a Muslim he is questioned, this is deplorable! How can he forget that he was captaining this country being from a minority? People cannot escape crimes by claiming that he is from a minority! No country appeases minorities like the way India does. Good Islamists have to come forward to stop this terrorism and not blame others for blaming them!
A coomunity is judged by its followers whether they are Hindus / Muslims / Christians. Please tell me the name of one other country where Hindus are involved in terrorist activities. Though they are in minority in most of the countries, they never indulged in any form of Terrorism. But I can name scores of countries where muslims though in minority are responsible for terrorist activities. Like US, UK, Spain, Thailand, Philippines. Please also understand that Hindus are a minority in many countries like Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Fiji, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh, The West Indies, Mauritius and they never indulged in any Terrorist Activities.
In India of course, there were some instances of terrorism from Hindus, but they are a far and few and not an evryday phenomina.
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by Truth again on Jul 17, 2007 07:17 PM Permalink
Ooh right 1>Arshad mehta never killed any one on name of relegion, Azrudding after getting proved guilty said that he was framed becuase he is a minority. Nice way to defend bad deals. 2>Yes, if there is GODHRA, flames will touch every house. 3>US or UK didnt started killing on name o relegion. 4>LTTE and ULFA are militants because they are not fighting any war on name of relegion. 5> lastly, why dont muslim issue a FATHWA against terrorists?? or any one who can issue a fathwa are all terrorists.
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by cool guy on Jul 17, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
Dude.. You need to read the news properly. I agrre to the facts you put in there but THEY DONT PROPOGATE THEIR RELIGION WHILE DOING THOSE CRIMES. They are not crying out loud about Holy War in the name of Jesus or Ram or GuruNanak etc.. Muslims criminals use their Allah and Islam as the motivation for their crimes. Did you read yesterdays news about Bin Laden saying "Prophet also wanted to be a martyr". He said this for his croonies in al qadea. What proof do u need that these zealots are using Islam as their weapon to kill people? Show me a hindu or a christian using his/her religious book or god to kill people.
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by vladimir stoicko on Jul 17, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
Could you clarify what you meant of petty muslim criminals.. Criminals are criminals when they kill innocent people regardless they are muslim or hindu. Juz check out in the whole world how many innocents are killed with these terrorist activities. We dont believe in that never . Nobody is given the permission to take the lives which has been granted by the allmight Stoick
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by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 17, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
Dear Vladimir, Check out who is getting killed in Large Numbers....Due to US led invasion 1) 6 Million have lost their Homes 2) Thousands still Dying 3) More than 60,000 children born with Heart Problems So these are not Lives to you... Tell me how many are dead in Bomb attacks ?? 1) 160 dead in Spain 2) 56 dead in London 3) 1000 dead in US Take a calcualtion and make equilibrium on how many muslims are dying ??? I agree that the attacks in London, US and Spain cannot be Justified.. All I am asking is why there is no comment on the Killings from US, Are the common Iraqis Animals, there lives are not Precious ?? If you are Unbiased think about it...
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by ganesh rajendra banale on Jul 17, 2007 07:50 PM Permalink
Dear friends, we can look at hole episode as good and evile Killings of inosent Irakies evile where america is direct responsible calling all americans cold hearted murdurers easy solution Killing of inosent people all over the world by fundamentalist evile calling all muslims terorist easy solution in this way problem is not going to be solved non muslims should wage war agains american selfish forien policy and other radicals while muslims should wage wor against muslim fundamentalist who are doing these barbaric acts under the name of religion
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by India Fan on Jul 17, 2007 07:22 PM Permalink
Great job, congrats to USA keep up the good work, just make sure that they do not get any work visas. Otherwise, they will spew more venom and hatred.
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by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 17, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
Biased Indian Fan, You are ready to Forget 300 Years of British Slavery .... really you would have eaten a lot of salt offered by the Imperialist...
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by Jai Nambiar on Jul 17, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
You are wrong. 1) Irish Republican Army has been classified as terrorists. 2) Sikhs in Punjab during the 80s were called terrorists 3) Nobody doubts that LTTE is a terrorist organization.
Agreed hindus and now every non-muslim view muslim activities with some prejudice. But, it is also true that no other group/community is so fanatically influenced by religion to commit terrorist acts.
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by Saju Sam on Jul 17, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
I never seen a protest by any muslims organization when saddam killed thousands of Kurds in Iraq.I never seen a protest by any muslims organization when Bamian Status were destroyed in Afghan.And still not able to see any demostration aganist huge human rights violation happening in most of the muslim countries
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by Milind on Jul 17, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
It%u2019s not the question of generalizing...
Muslims are killing innocents for last 1500 years or more in the name of religion...
Just that now they are in minority in some parts of the world so they are keeping quite but once they have the right numerical strength and power the true character of every one of them will come out and then the earth will be a small place to run for rest of the people...
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by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 17, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
Dear Millind, If you Dig the History, you go backwards... There are thousands of wars between different groups of People. That was the Culture of Invasion was prevalent through out the World. The only aspect is Muslims were successful and you Project it for your Favour... Think about King Ashoka, present day Bihari (The Hindu) who persecuted thousands of Kalingans (present day Orissans)... For that you will advice the Orissans to take revenge on Biharis ??? That will be Pathetic... King Harsha (The Hindu) has looted a lot of Kashmiri Temples, will you tell to take revenge ??? I know that I belong to Maratha Dynasty, should I ask for a seperate state for Marathis ??? History is different the attitudes have changed, so dont paint the same Brush....
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by Ajay Sharma on Jul 17, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Hi, I really like your sentiments and can understand your state of mind when you would be typing this. But, the bottom line is that Muslims still want to live their life in confinements. They do not want to live with the whole community. Majority still find madrasas better then English Medium School. Full of Kashmir favors Pakistan and not India. Do you have any idea how much whole of India suffer due to this fact. I really want to request you to tell everyone in your community to be more for the mankind. I don't say that Hindu or Sikhs or Christians are not bad, but majority of them are good. whereas, in Muslims, majority does not want to forget the past and live for Future. I hope you understand. Thanks.
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by satya s on Jul 17, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
". Full of Kashmir favors Pakistan and not India. "
Where is the evidence man?
"I don't say that Hindu or Sikhs or Christians are not bad, but majority of them are good. whereas, in Muslims, majority does not want to forget the past and live for Future."
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by noor ansari on Jul 17, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
Do u now just 4% of the Muslim students are enrolled in Madarsas, go to facts, before pointing allegations. As far as muslims living among themselves, it is a natural habit. Dont u see tamil living among tamils, telugus among telugus.
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by Sanjeev Sharma on Jul 17, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
there is no shortage of excuses used by terrorists. however, nothing moral can justify the actions of terrorists. they have been killing people for more than a millenium.
