There are approximtely 150000000 muslims in India.Is it not unnatural that some of them will be fanatic among them. Instead of branding all muslims and Islam as terrorist we are paving the path for many more to join them. The need of the hour is to join hand and condemn these acts and identify those potential hazards and send them to places like jail or metal asylum where they can not create any nuisance.
Let us not forget that we had made the mistake of treating every sikh a khalistani and every khalistani a terrorist despite the fact that sikh community has made supreme sacrifice on the border of India.
Let us not get swayed by sentiments.The situation will become highly explosive if any attempt is made to isolate muslims and brand them as Jihadi and words like that.
RE:Need of the hour
by Biplab Pal on Jul 06, 2007 11:46 AM Permalink
You are right--very right--but how 1) How many times Indian 'moderate' muslims were on the street to protest against Osama? 2) Against Dawd? 3) Against Pakisthan's terror plot?
Extend this. How many times and in how many places 'Moderate' did protest against Mullahs on the street?
Ask yourselves this questions and you will realize why there is mass emotion against Muslims as terrorist. Which is unjustified--true--but that happened because moderates did not protest.
Realize that first before blaming non-Muslims. Nobody is idiot. Nothing happens without a cause.
RE:Need of the hour
by Biplab Pal on Jul 06, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
When you start looking for the truth it comes out--such as:
In West Bengal mass rallies held against Modi--he was sent back from Airport--not by Muslims but by the secular Hindues. But even then, truely speaking Modi has acceptance among most of the Hindues--this does prove Hindues support and enjoy killing of Muslims. Got to admit it. The same way, you must admit, majority of Muslims are sympathetic to terrorist activities for their love of religion. I have seen majority of Hindues even supported Dwara Singh--killer of father Steins. This does prove Hindues are equally vile given a chance. But that does not dilute the fact why moderate Muslims are silent against their religion--they are silent and paying the toll for being silent.
RE:Need of the hour
by on Jul 06, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
Do u want me to scream on roof tops to denounce such misguided and henious crimes by some sick muslims....will do boss...But i'll do the same if any such crimes done by any non-muslims.....does'nt matter whether its by hindus' or chritians or by jews......but here's the thing......the moment a hindu sees a muslim protesting in any manner for whatever the reason is he is confronted by questions such as why dod'nt u relocate to pakistan, r u indian or muslims first, u 'all' support Dawood...osama..any and all muslim terrorists....
once the mindset is to slander a whole community based on actions by a miniscule few....u would know how it feels to be an Indian muslim now....
for my part i had joined teh NDA the elite defense academy of india...was top of the class for a yr...has to quit since my parents expired...had to take care of my family....i had'nt joined NDA for money ...my family was very well off....it was a genuine feeling to serve my country.....what a shame
RE:Need of the hour
by Biplab Pal on Jul 06, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
Do you know how a conclusion is drawn in statistical hypothesis? It is by null hypothesis--that is if I have to conclude that Muslims are supporters of terrorism, I have to first find out evidence of the Muslims who don't support it and actively against it. Of course there are exception--and exceptionally nationalistic Muslims. But that exception only proves the law. In the matter of religions, Indians, irrespective of Hindues or Muslims are hypocrit. I have seen Hindu political leader who was very vocal against Modi in public has so much of appreciation for him in private. This is the problem with the Muslims as well. The fact that thousands of rallies can be organized against America by them and none against crimes of Mullahs [ Terror Bomb blast to ill motivated Fatewa] clearly establishes the fact that their love for Islam is at quite dangerous level---religion is about inpterpretation and Islam is good or bad depending on what version do you follow, but irrespective of the version, irrational love for Islam is becoming a problem all over the world. There can not be any doubt on this.
RE:Need of the hour
by Orange Kid on Jul 06, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
1) Who do you think is responsible for the mindset? 2) Why do people support Kalam but hate muslims?
RE:Need of the hour
by on Jul 06, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
i did,nt see not link to reply to the below post......so here it is..
mindset?....u obvously believe all indian muslims r carry this mindset wherevr they go......wrong brother........we hate these ppl as much u do...these r criminales........i've given a very lenghhy answere to the islamist fundamenta;lists in other message boards.....dont have have the char to replicate it....neverthe;less..........the indian muslims are without any basis or rasionaln impleplecated without any proof.....
pple support Kalam but hate muslims in India is because the hindus just assume 'all' muslims r 'plotting' against indian to disintegrate it.......truth is brother the regionnal feelings and culture is more important in indian than a INDIA which is is united..
all south Indian states wants autonomy and free will...which in the future will have a domino effet
RE:RE:RE:Need of the hour
by Biplab Pal on Jul 06, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
Now explain to me when they can not come out to street to protest against Osama, how come they can be in enmass on street against America? Muslims were in large number on the street against Bush. That is acceptable--but how many of them were on the street to protest the terrorism in Delhi, in Mumbai and in Calcutta..
RE:Need of the hour
by ramesh on Jul 06, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
Pls add afghan war, iraq war, vote against iran in IAEA, prophet cartoons, Pope's comments, afzal guru to that list Biplab. One thing is never talk to muslims in this forum, they have pre-conceived opinions and they are not trained to listen to folks other than "mullahs", so no point in talking to them. Its like the dog only listens to its trainer and not anyone else
RE:Need of the hour
by Haroon Ghalib on Jul 06, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
how many were there for against MODI? every tongue was tied strickly for GOODARAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOL and that even was staged as the investigations tell!! Thanks God we took pakistan i wudnt have lived a day with sick people like u!! LOL Jinnah Zindabad
Why you people dont denounce their activities. keeping silence over a wrong doing is nothing but accpetance. Can you cite a a single example that you took to streets to protest aganist the activities done by some of your bretheren ??
RE:Need of the hour
by Billy Zane on Jul 06, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
How can u interpret that keeping silence is accepting wrong things, do u know what we discuss about these fanatics among our community or family, any moderate & educated ppl will not go & shout on street, wether it is hindu or muslim, we have not shouted in favour of saddam, we didn't did goondaism for cartoon controversy but yet we strongly condemned these two incidents thru media or other methods which were peaceful indeed, so why we come out on street & shout, what will be the difference between them & us, Now i will ask u a question, why u didn't come out when shivsainiks, rss brigade bajrangi's were doing goondaism to protest valentiene day, when theywere becoming moral police & catching couples in parks, attacking star tv office, u think & u ll get the answer, if u ll see madrasa in india is not flourishing, infact it is educating ppl of very poor muslim kids whose parents dont have money to feed there kids, these madrasa provide free lunch & breakfast to them, madrassas r running in mainly rural india where there is hardly any govt schools, (building is there, but no teacher). the solution is not in publicly denouncing them but the economic & educational upliftment of poor muslims in india
RE:Need of the hour
by shashidhar prasad on Jul 06, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
"some of them " includes kashmiris ,right?. We all know what they did to Kashmiri pandits. Now you people are on your own.
RE:Need of the hour
by rajan on Jul 07, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
jehadi dont have religious moral they adhere with their own destiny.people like us who are muslims and afriad of allah who is the almighty. friends be apart of it to condemn who has spoil our nation name and our brotherhood
RE:RE:Need of the hour
by rajan on Jul 07, 2007 06:10 PM Permalink
jehadi dont have religious moral they adhere with their own destiny.people like us who are muslims and afriad of allah who is the almighty. friends be apart of it to condemn who has spoil our nation name and our brotherhood
