why doesn't the innocent, moderate muslim people convert themselves to some other religions like christianity etc. so that they can come out of the clutches of these Mullahs who spread so much hatred among the civilized world? I absolutely can't understand how can people accede to unquestioned faith....if there is no question....how does one convince oneself? How can people of so good education let themselves be brainwashed? How did they sell their judgement/their logics? Is it due to better acceptance in the society? To me it seems to be a solution.....the moderate/peaceloving muslims...better save your own back.....convert to some other religions...be at peace with your children/family....study/work/have fun/have peace....but don't spread/be a part in the spread of terrorism
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by Sushim Roy on Jul 07, 2007 06:43 AM Permalink
come on...people in India and abroad (western countries)...have the full freedom choosing one's religion...that's democracy man.....the moderate muslims...they should be given this thought too..that if they want to alienate themselves from the terrorists...they better change the whole idea....they better convert to some other religion so that the mullahs can't have any grip over them
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by Vinay Gupta on Jul 07, 2007 07:57 AM Permalink
Sushim, seee what is happening with Rushdi and Taleema Nasreen? This whole drama of treat is to desist muslims not to even think of changing the religion. If you follow the news paper than one muslim girl married hindu boy and in the Court itself boy and his family wre mercilessly beaten and girl abducted! This was reported in Navbharat Times 20-25 days back on 5th page. In the name of secularism such incidence are not reported.
If comman muslim try to revolt then he will be killed and no one would take notice even
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by Srikanth on Jul 07, 2007 06:34 AM Permalink
So, you are a Christian missionary waiting to convert Mulsims. Both of you should be banned.
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by Shankar Panday on Jul 07, 2007 08:12 AM Permalink
The movement for leaving Islam has gained huge momentum all over Europe, with the recent opening of the British chapter Ex Muslims of Britain under Ms Maryam Namazie...the website is very popular.
RE:why not come out of the clutches of the mullahs? convert to some other religions
by Sushim Roy on Jul 07, 2007 06:39 AM Permalink
no...i'm a Hindu....as Hinduism has no conversion..that's why i referred to any other religion..it may be christianity..buddhism..anything...that doesn't preach hatred..that's it...to come out of the clutches of the hatred preaching clerics....any more problem Srikanth?
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by Shankar Panday on Jul 07, 2007 08:07 AM Permalink
Why cant Hinduism hv converts? all Hindus were converts at some time or the other..various races came to India and adopted Hinduism an evolved religion...Balinese are not Indian ethnically yet they r the most ardent of HIndus...so are they not coverted?? conversion is simply acceptance of a the lofty ideals of Hinduism...Vivekananda called HInduism as the first missionary religion..it spread all over S E Asia and beyond..please remember the biggest Hindu temple is not in INdia but at Angkor Vat, Cambodia..and these Vishnu temples were not built by INdians but local Hindus...btw which verse & chapter in any Hindu text says that Hindu spiritual knowledge cannot spread and hence no converts??? today amazingly HInduism spreads as a movement without missionary activity..just by itself by its innate beauty...vegetarianism, New Age are all Hindu exports.
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by Muslehuddin Shakeel on Jul 07, 2007 07:08 AM Permalink
becoz muslims belive Islam is the best religion and the one potrayed in media
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by Vinay Gupta on Jul 07, 2007 07:19 AM Permalink
Sushim, as muslehddin has said muslim kid go into the clutch of Mullah at the age of 3. They brainwash them that Islam is best religion and it provide Jannat (heven) and 72 virgins. more over there cannot be any argument regarding what is written in Quran.
Moreover Hindus donot believe in conversion. Vedas say " there is one God, there may be many way to get to it". So for Hindus every religion is respectable. But same is not true with other.
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by Muslehuddin Shakeel on Jul 07, 2007 07:29 AM Permalink
your argument is not sound,have some foreful argument not just for sake of it
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by Sushim Roy on Jul 07, 2007 09:49 AM Permalink
hi Muslehuddin.....the arguments put forward by Vinay Gupta is solid when he is saying about the Vedas or hinduism.....we have no bosses....and you are free to believe/worship anyone/anything....as long as you a peaceloving person....not harming others....we believe that God is everything....everywhere...hence everything is manifestation of God. But yeah.....I personally don't know Quaran/Hadis or the tenets of Muslim religion....so I can support Vinay Gupta fully for his views of Hindu religion....and its true we believe you can achieve God in any way....that's why based on this idea of free thought I supposed the idea that the moderate muslims in the democratic countries convert themselves to some other peaceloving religions....then they won't be in the clutches of the Mullahs anymore...
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by venkat on Jul 07, 2007 06:35 AM Permalink
There is no moderate islam. Islam does not have any tolerance for kafirs. Which is what you see in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc.
Those who are tolerant muslims, they are stained by the quality found in tolerant religions like Hinduism. Tolerance is a Hindu quality, not muslim. That is why muslims have maximum freedom as minorities in India and Hindus are being decimated and destroyed in Pakistan, Bangladesh, KAshmir etc where intolerant muslims are in minority
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by Sushim Roy on Jul 07, 2007 06:45 AM Permalink
if something is soo intolerant..why not come out of its clutches....that's it...simple....you can't change the religion/it's beliefs......so change yourself....it's like the discovery of shoe...you can't dust the whole world....save your own feet
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by venkat on Jul 07, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
You cannot come out of its clutches. In Islam if you leave the religion, it is death sentence. (in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afganistan) So there is no escape from this prison like situation.
Hinduism on the other is very free. You can believe, dis-believe in anything you want. You are also free to convert. There is complete freedom of thought. Which is why we are the earth's spiritual centre and have given birth to many sages and religions.
