RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Srinivas on Jul 02, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
Jay , I agree with your point that Hindus lack unity. They should first unite whatever comes their way.
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 02, 2007 09:40 PM Permalink
I think you need to read some history,... http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4649
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by jay krishnan on Jul 02, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
you mean the history written by the white folks for India so they can continue the lineage of self hating slaves and white boot lickers ? No thanks but I will pass. I don't have to read the history of my civilization written by foriegn invaders to suit their glory.
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 02, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
your wish, you close your senses and feel the world is safe !! ... India never fell short of people like you!! I have seen the ruins with my own eyes in Mathura, Vrindavan !!, why is J&K only full of muslims now?? where is all the pandit gone? why are they refugee in their own motherland??
Was Bangadesh a muslim country all thru'???
http://www.factusa.org/bdesh/teaser - FYI - this is not history - this is present!!
Do you know the rights of a Hindu in Pakistan?
Hindu can vote only a Hindu nominee (who is by the way a minority individual candidate)...
it wont surprise me if you pass this off, India is full of people like you!
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by jay krishnan on Jul 02, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
Why should I have to either die or convert ? Why should you consider only 2 options ? speak for yourself. Why can't I kill the enemy and keep my religion, if needed ? If I die in the attempt, What is more honourable than that ? Besides is it going to be just a walk in the park to try and convert 850 Million Hindus ? Unless ofcourse you don't stand united. And you are cowardly enough to hide your skin when your fellow hindu neighbour is being threatened by a sword. It is this kind of insecurity and weakness that has brought the Hindu race to such a lowly state. Today we have no respect from the western world. Do you think that the white folks think of you as their equal ever just because you back them against your converted brothers and sisters ? And what is the cause for their conversion ? Was that because the hindus that converted had nothing honourable about them ? And are you exhibiting some of those same traits ? Time to introspect my brother and shake off all weaknesses and come out strong.
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 02, 2007 10:41 PM Permalink
I agree with you abt how we should unite... but excuse me none would want to be as 'wise' as you are to imbibe the ideology from terrorists !!
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by jay krishnan on Jul 02, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
In other words, nobody can convert you unless you become weak and susceptible to it. So the first duty is for us to become strongly established in the SANATANA DHARMA by reading from the fountain heads of the upanishads and vedanta and imbibing the true spirit of Hinduism and inculcate into ourselves great love for our fellow descendents of rishis and sages of yore. Do you know how glorious is this lineage of the hindus ? Read swami vivekananda and Ramakrishna Paramahamsa. Such knowledge has to be taught in our schools and the slavish history lessons created by the british for Indian students uprooted and cast away. The first thing that Indian students learn in our ancient history is that Indian civilization is only 2000 years old and it started with the so called western fabrication of 'ARYAN INVASION'. And you fall for that ? That every great thing that originated in your motherland was infact exported from the white man's race. That the Indian race had nothing to do but burn widows and throw children into crocodile's mouths. Do you know such vileness passes for 'Pagan' culture in the west ?
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 02, 2007 11:37 PM Permalink
Glad to see this face of yours!! ... I'm 200% with you on this one!!
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Haroon Ghalib on Jul 02, 2007 09:44 PM Permalink
Jay Krishnan!! great! i am pakistani but your analysis is great not tht u sided us but u read the situation well!we need minds like u!its not religion!its the politics that the west does! by ways of deception they rule!the way they did in India! But blaming and stereotyping the nation of Islam hasnt done well for west!history has proved it has strengthened islam!its glory is togetherness! Does Hinduism preaches hate? no! does islam teaches hate? no but today ask any one he has become a scholar of islam and say Quran says this and says that for infidels! it does not mean that kill hindus christian jews!the people that does it are wrong,but when people take their name and associate them with islam then the people in the true community have become hostile!just like if i call hindus killers of 2000 muslims a time will come that ull become more hostile!Problems of Palestine, Kashmir still linger but the Kuwait problem was solved in months!what do u think west want a settlement for the problems? theyw ant india pak to fight they want palestine and israel fight so that their own value do'nt go down. Think about it!west and capitalist will go anywhere wheer theres bread and some oil to fry it in!!!! Dont blame the second largest religion on planet earth!it not due to swords,its due to this kinda environment that people start reading it,and when they read the truth they say what the heck and they accept islam!what do u think wheres the sword?
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 02, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
After what hitler did to Jews did u see any jew blowing up himself in a german resturant?
what is this happening in Bangladesh?? http://www.factusa.org/bdesh/teaser
Is America pushing you do this??
There is a brilliant quote from one Sarat Chandra!! - "If uncontrolled, weeds grow faster than regular crops. It doesn't means weeds are better." this is in reponse to your claim that Islam is growing !!
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Prithvi Paul on Jul 03, 2007 01:11 AM Permalink
brilliant response Sarat Chandra , is he the same guy who wrote Devdas
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Pritish Nagaraj on Jul 03, 2007 01:53 AM Permalink
you bet!! He's our blogging companion on rediff, I believe it is his own quote!! He said this in response to one 'EPSILON' on the statistics of growing Islam population, of Jul-1st article which was about inscrease in infiltration in the valley. Well it was reported for abuse by some psycho though and our rediff moderator friends purged that post !!
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Haroon Ghalib on Jul 17, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
thats becoz he blew them as they didnt give him money for the war!it was tit for tat!europe being christians just threw all of them into palestine!READ HISTORY and crusades!chirstians thrwe them all outta jerusalem,muslims got it back under calioh umar and open it for all!but ull never read it,read jewish history ull get facts!yahan bhiath k Fox new ab BRAman k article na parho!after ww11 y didnt they make a home for them in in germany???after all they prevailed!!!they were able to make berlin wall but not a israel there!they got rid of em!made a land in palestine,let em fight an sell em arms!!!!they do blow them selves up but the news u get in india is they are fer peace!!LOL after all u ppl are frnds!AND know the diff bw anti-zion and anti-semetism!im not a anti-semite!!!
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by B P on Jul 02, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
Well, its is really a point of ponder, Kuwait problem solved in month but Kashmir and Pelistine problems are here for years. One more point to think, India and Pakisatan were a Nation, but now bitter enemies!!! Both sides people can work together. They can not do business together, but British companies are working on both sides. These companies are making money in both India and Pakistan!!! India and Pakistan fight each other and for fighting they purchase weapons, fighter planes form western countries. What a good politics played by western countries.
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Harish Gurumoorthy on Jul 03, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
Yaar Haroon, it is rather naive for you to blame the west for Indo-Pak problems. If Pakistan wants Kashmir, it must win it by war, because what cannot be won in war, can never be won through negotiations. And Pakistan is trying to do exactly that. Coming to Hindu-Muslim unity, the fact that a sizeable Muslim population can never live in peace with their neighbors is a indisputable fact that has been proved over and over again. As for conversions to Islam, apparently the maximum number of converts to Islam are convicted prisoners, destitute and poor, hoping to escape their loneliness and gain some redemption out of the sense of belonging to a larger community, the Ummah, that Islam provides.
RE:RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Haroon Ghalib on Jul 17, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
means were changing the right ones!!muslims can live with anyone provided equal rigfhts other wise there had been no division! war for kashmir i am happy u said that,u showed that u are "occupying" it and this very fact is causing the terrorism!!!!ok and naive abt west??? my cousin is in army served in siachen,he said the equipment we use and the indians use was the same british company that was selling it to india and pak!!!
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by noel on Jul 02, 2007 09:33 PM Permalink
Muslims can not live with any other community, so long as they are in minority they will keep breeding till they become close to half of the population and then they anhiliate the others, it has happened everywhere in the world and will hapeen in India also unless they are restrained, we need people like Narendra Modi....
RE:RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by Haroon Ghalib on Jul 02, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
yea ul side with the butcher LOL the killer of 2000 muslims!and godhara was a drama they did!just like the israleis PM Begin did in hotel bombing in order to get support against palestinians!!! these Modi's and thackeray's have produced Tiger Memon and Dawood! and do u know dawood is in business with Thackeray's son LOL what a pity!!!
RE:Hindus need unity amongst themselves first
by san man on Jul 03, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
Modi didn't kill anybody, Muslim-Hindu death ratio was 3:1, and an unprecedentedly large number of police officers died. Show me the Dawood-Thakre business connection.
