Samik Ghosh>>May be I am wrong , I am ill-informed ... but all over the world I have heard that if agriculture makes way to industry even to a small extent , it is helpful to the society ?
You are a typical CPIM cader. Or at least, you still have that cader mentality - twisting and turning facts, but never speaking the truth.
1. Singur is a prime Agri cultural Farm land. CPIM suppressing that fact.
2. The law (1890s British law) based on which Govt is forcing land acquisition has been shot down by Supreme Cort of India in December 2006.
3. In India we have rule of law unlike China. You can't just grab somebody's land against their wishes or by intimadation by CPIM Caders as being done now.
4. CPIM lied that 98% people gave land willingly. However fact remains, some 40-45% money is still NOT collected by land owners.
5. CPIM is fabicating facts that only 3% of WB land is non-agriable. However, Debabrata Bandyopadhyay, India's most experienced bureaucrat on Land-reformation has categorically rejected that. He said from the same document (from where CPIM is quoting) that 17% of WB land is agriable.
6. Nowhere in India, be it Guj/Mah/Orissa - farmland are being acquisitioned for Industry. I have spoken with many friends outside WB, and they said: are you mad? Why Industry will be setup in farmland? Nowhere it will be allowed.
7. Marginal farmers will be doomed if they sell their land. Why Can;t Tata set up the plant in arid lands of Bankura/Purulia districts, which are also close to Jamshedpur?
8. He quotes Amartya Sen/Yunis as supporting Singur. This is fabicration. They never supported it.
RE:CPIM is twisting/turning facts on Singur.
by mrinal patra on Feb 25, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
Dear Mr. Chattopadhyay, I have nothing against you personally. Going through the comments of different people, it seems to me that some people have taken up their stand for and against the land acuisition in Singur and are fabricating stories to justify their stand. True the land in question is fertile. But then the entire gangetic plain in West Bengal is very fertile. Does that mean that there should be no industry in gangetic plane of West Bengal? And how much of land is involved, only 4 square kilometers out of West Bengal's total land mass of about 87,000 square kilometers. For your information, India has very percentage of total geographical area under cultivation (about 57%, which is much higher compared to almost all other countries in the world except Bangladesh 70%). Some politician are trying to protray a picture that we do not have sufficient farmland and if land is taken away for indutrialisation then we could have food secuity problem. This is utterly nonsence. The real problem in India is the farming sector productivity. Giving a tiny percentage of land is not going to create any problem if we concetrate on increasing farmland productivity. I agree that some farmers will need help in relocation. This is where the political patries should help the farmers and not agitate them and then fish in the troubled water. I am sure the Tatas are not setting up factory in Singur just for the sake of uprooting the farmers. They sure must have seen this location from many different angles (logistics, locational advantages, availability of skilled labour etc) and come to the conclusion that Singur is the most suitable location for their small car project. I think the farmers dearer to some politicans can only dream of buying such cheap cars. Lastly do not think the land in Bankura and Purulia are all arid. We bought some so called arid land and invested in irrigation and fertility mangement and I can produdly say that the productity and profitabilty of this so called arid land is at least 5 times more than the land in Singur and we are generating 1 full time employment for every 2.5 acres of land. I would suggest politicians should go and help the farmers in improving their farm productivity and frofitability and not merely agitate them and then fish in the troubled water. The politicians in question seem to be frog in deep tubewell with not so much knowledge about development. So they should do some retrospect and act for the betterment of the society as a whole. Once again do not take any personal offence.
RE:CPIM is twisting/turning facts on Singur.
by Ritwik on Feb 26, 2007 01:58 AM Permalink
In that way we can say that you are an ardent Trinamoli who likes to do politics with poor people and who have con proper decorum among their party members(ransacking the VidanSabha as an example). Or you can be a naxalite which has a good supporting cause to start with in 1970%u2019s but now is handful of illogical anti Indians.
The government never suppressed the fact. But how long can you survive on agriculture. Due to global warming the climate is changing and its reflected in this years potato cultivation(main crop of Singur) when a million farmers made a huge loss when their cultivated potatoes got ruined due to February rainfall. How long can these people depend on weather for their fate. Its estimated that West Bengal needs less than 1% of its fertile fields for industry. That%u2019s not a big deal considering most of West Bengal is fertile land thanks to the Ganges.
What will you do if hooligans like the TMC and naxalites hardly any local people torch the posts and disrupts life and do politics with poor people just for the sake of gaining political importance I guess where are they including the initiator of this article when we have drought and flood every year in Bengal.
They are not grabbing land it but they are paying 10 times more what the Maharashtra Government is paying for the same land
I think this dude need to learn geography. The non-fertile land in Gujrat, Maharashtra and Orissa is much more than compared to fertile West Bengal and moreover which state want its competitor to look good during this era of wooing business in their own state. Lot more farmers commit suicide in Maharashtra that Bengal. No farmers in Bengal dies due to police shootout like in Kalinganagar in Orissa
RE:CPIM is twisting/turning facts on Singur.
by Raj Aryan on Feb 26, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
RE:BUDDHA WILL DO WELL TO SET UP FENCE ALONG INDO-BANGLADESH BORDER, NOT IN SINGUR by Raj Aryan on Feb 26, 2007 09:58 AM Bull's eye.. Mr.Bhaskar Chattopadhyay. I'm gald that there are atleats few sensible & patriotic bongs who can see through the commies devilish strategy. I always felt that the patriotism of bongs does not go beyound there language & Sourav Ganguly, which they exhibited when India was playing South Africa in Eden Garden Kolkata by supporting the opposite team.
