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by narmi deys on Feb 21, 2007 12:55 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

How stupid?? That's what we can expect from Indian investigating team. If they cannot solve the case they easily blame Pak based militants. If Pak based militants were to be involved they would blow up train from pakistan that is coming back to india so that they can maximum indians. why would they blow-up this train to kill their own citizens?? what a cruel joke. It's just like the Malegaon case in which they blamed SIMI and pak militants killing their own muslim brother...what cruel joke...they don't even bother to raid RSS, VHP or shiv sena cells to see for the clue. This shows how indian govt can go as low as this to blame each and everything to pak based militants without any logic. It's well known fact that RSS/VHP/Shivsena/Bajrang dal are not happy with the ongoing peace process with india, but still Indian police is not even suspecting these organization if not raid on their cells. This 3rd time that the terrorist attach occured on muslim targets (delhi jama masjid, Malegaon, now this train) but still pak based militants have been blamed. What else u can expect when Indian police, intelligence is filled with Hindu fundamentalist sympathisers. God save India.



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by mpncn mpn on Feb 21, 2007 06:17 PM   Permalink
Hi Narmi,
I do not agree with your points-
Its not a new thing that muslims kills muslims themselves...they just dont care about who will be suffering from the terrorist activities like this...The terrosist leaders have agenda to do some thing against India , they just look at the targets...not at the consequences..whether it kills muslims or pakis or indians..they just dont care about it.
Thats why we Indians ask the Muslims to stop any kind of support to Muslim terrorists.....so far they have mostly targeted Hindus only, so you muslims were not so bothered and now atleaset you should bother it since they have started targeting anything against this great country...irrespective whether it will kill Hindus or muslims or christians...
So think and act now to stop terrorism.....
stop injecting hatred towards kafirs in madrasas,
stop injecting hardcore islamism into the young children and try to bring them up as an Indian rather than only Muslim---- think broader and above from the religion...or the kuran....
Take only teh good things from that book, forget the saying ' attack others or kill others if they do criticism of Islam '

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by Om on Feb 21, 2007 01:00 AM   Permalink
are u a fool? pak-based terrorist outfits have been killing kashmiri muslims for more than 15 years now. so don't give the bull that muslim terrorists won't kill fellow muslim bretheren.

as for this blast, pak-based terrorists can go to any extent as they are the lowest form of human beings. they will even kill their own to trigger suspicision and hatred in the minds ot their people towards another country.

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by narmi deys on Feb 21, 2007 01:42 AM   Permalink
So, u guys are saying there are no RSS sympathisers in indian police & intelligence?? again this looks like big joke for me... When I can find so many people taking so much time for exclusive islam/muslim bashing in this forum, then obviously there must be at least 90% of the police & intelligence would be RSS sympathisers. I don't understand why guys are comaparing iraq/afghanistan to indian problems. iraq/afghanistan mess was created by US not by Indians or pakitanis. HOw can't even how stupid your arguments are?

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by mpncn mpn on Feb 21, 2007 06:17 PM   Permalink
Hi Narmi,
I do not agree with your points-
Its not a new thing that muslims kills muslims themselves...they just dont care about who will be suffering from the terrorist activities like this...The terrosist leaders have agenda to do some thing against India , they just look at the targets...not at the consequences..whether it kills muslims or pakis or indians..they just dont care about it.
Thats why we Indians ask the Muslims to stop any kind of support to Muslim terrorists.....so far they have mostly targeted Hindus only, so you muslims were not so bothered and now atleaset you should bother it since they have started targeting anything against this great country...irrespective whether it will kill Hindus or muslims or christians...
So think and act now to stop terrorism.....
stop injecting hatred towards kafirs in madrasas,
stop injecting hardcore islamism into the young children and try to bring them up as an Indian rather than only Muslim---- think broader and above from the religion...or the kuran....
Take only teh good things from that book, forget the saying ' attack others or kill others if they do criticism of Islam '

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by sahi on Feb 21, 2007 01:28 AM   Permalink
who do you think is killing iraqis in suicide bombing? There too muslims are killing muslims. It's written in quran that it is ok to kill muslims if it furthers the cause of islam.
What world are you living in?

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by ravi.k on Feb 21, 2007 01:09 AM   Permalink
that is because intlgnce officers are not idiots like you !!! Hope your queries are solved !!!

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by atindra shukla on Feb 21, 2007 01:01 AM   Permalink
Pak militants have habit of killing their own citizens, dont get irritated. Is RSS/VHP going in Iraq, and Northern area of Pakistan to kill people? Dont make fool of yourself. Your country's nefarious designs are exposed.

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by mohammed shafeeq on Feb 21, 2007 01:25 AM   Permalink
Rss VHP shivsena or Bajrang dal cant go Iraq because they are tigers only in india.That to because of the help of police, media and the government otherwise how do you think they would have subjugated the downtrodden from thousands of years.IF you think what they do in communal riots is not terrorism that shows the mentality and double standards of people .People or government should always think about the welfare of the country irrespective of religion or caste

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by mohammed adil on Feb 21, 2007 01:42 AM   Permalink
hey shafeeq, dont discuss any topic with these people. its a bunch of hindu jokers who feel happy after abusing the muslims.There are lots of Hindu who dont feel this way.So relax .These people are good leaders on paper.let them be.

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by atindra shukla on Feb 21, 2007 01:50 AM   Permalink
We are no leaders, we are common man who are pained by years of terrorism and appeasement of particular community in the name of secularism.

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by navratan bafna on Feb 21, 2007 02:52 AM   Permalink
dear frined
behaving like gunda and doing something riots is different then planning and excecuting a bomb blast.
all leaders in shiv sena, bajrang dal , VHP are more concern in politics than spreading hinduism.
thats why these organization are just vocal rather than militants.

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by atindra shukla on Feb 21, 2007 04:06 AM   Permalink
They dont want to go anywhere. They are not involved in riots either. So your arguements are invalid. Try to clean up the mess of your homegrown terrorists first. If you are so keen to the welfare of country irrespective of caste and religion are you ready to common civil code?

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by Razor on Feb 21, 2007 01:39 AM   Permalink
Why dont you go to Iraq and take your other million odd no gooders with you? Please do that.

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by Razor on Feb 21, 2007 09:41 AM   Permalink
Mohammed,

Why dont you go to Iraq and take your other million odd no gooders with you? Please do that.



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by kumar saurabh on Feb 21, 2007 03:44 AM   Permalink
May be this guy can check out with the real facts around the world regarding muslims.U call any incident in the world where a terror act has taken place and not a muslim is involved !There is no denying the fact that rss/vhp/bajrang dal have been involved and part of many communal riots but never they been involved in any sabotage or terrorist acts against the state or citizens in general.I am sure this guy can check for himself the hard facts regarding the muslim society rather than blaming the indian intelligence officials.Its interesting that they don't seem to care as much when non muslims are put to sword but get agitated so quickly when their asses are put on burner.May be a bit of retrospection can help them to reform their society and bring them out of the lumbers of social evils like terrorism and stop sympathising with any muslim in any part of the globe just bcoj of his religion.

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by atindra shukla on Feb 21, 2007 01:25 AM   Permalink
Dont challenge this guy otherwise he will tell 9/11 was work of RSS/VHP. He lives in fools' paradise on earth called Pakistan.

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by Razor on Feb 21, 2007 01:37 AM   Permalink
Dont they have good libraries or schools in Pakistan? Poor souls yaar, this explains why you find very few white collars from pakistan overseas. Most of them are Blue collared doing donkey jobs that require no brains ! Pakistan should ask UN for helping them set up some good educational/ Learning institutions so that fools like narmi deys or whatever he is called prevent making fool of themselves !!

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by narmi deys on Feb 21, 2007 01:47 AM   Permalink
your saying this bcoz u have never spoken a pakistani or as a matter fact, I even doubt whether you have any good friendship (or even u have met any muslim in your life) with your own indian muslim. So, u cannot speak anything other than hate against muslims.

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by rising star on Feb 21, 2007 02:25 AM   Permalink
i have studied in aligarh muslim university with indian muslims for many years and have a single pakistani fresher in my office in london and my immediate neighbour is a pakistani. Unless one stays in fool's world, one can feel the worst image of pakistanis among all nationalities in UK. After the pakistanis were found involved in 7/7 attacks, indians were particularly affected as people thought every indian was a paki. Many times, white people vacated seat next to me and sat on other seats in train.

That said, I found that pakis were more progressive and accommodating than I had imagined (by no means liberal though) - better on relative scale of expectations yet not normally civilized though.

As for what the world thinks of muslims and islam, no surprises there, check this out:

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5565&sortBy=1&edition=1&ttl=20070220204824


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by Razor on Feb 21, 2007 04:42 AM   Permalink
You Pakistanis are always ill informed about happenings. The fact that you guys are alleging Indians of causing the blast itself tells it what quality of news and information is available in pakistan. As far as hate against Muslims is concerned, its only against dumb idiots like you and other Muslims whose only motto in life is to raise all teh hue and cry against non muslims. How many of you muslims have gone out and educated your fellow brothers about birth control and giving quality life to their kids? How many of you have asked your fellow brothers to have their daughters educated so they can stand on their feet? None !! If you are concerned about your fellow brothers, go and educate and work for their social upliftment rather than positing stupid comments like these. Rest all will fall into place. !!

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by Guru HM on Feb 21, 2007 03:33 AM   Permalink
Not really...U need to read some of spy stories...MI5/6, KGB double agents staged attacks against their own nationals to prove to their masters in opposite groups to build confidence in them...It could even be done by ISI. So that they can also place some of Indian..Hindu outfits under US sanctions....Makes sense...???

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by narmi deys on Feb 21, 2007 01:43 AM   Permalink
So, As per your logic, even 911 is orchestrated by CIA??? how stupid

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