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by Dr. Mohd. Waseemul Islam on Feb 19, 2007 09:51 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Dude, u r so overwhelmingly jealous of us Muslims that u cannot see past our names! ("name begins wid the word Muhamamd ... must be voilent" -thats wat u think and that%u2019s wat u have been made to think)

This is all of course due to the media --plus the 911 HOAX/conspiracy... ! Moot this: If 911 hadnt hppnd u wouldnt perceive us as "terrorists" !!! I cant prove to u in this short space that 911 was indeed a Goerge Bush conspiracy but if u juzz open ur minds to a slight , and very distinct possibility that 911 indeed was staged, then u can understand the hatred a "muslim" will have for USA/Israel! (and the consequential backlash)

Look at any 911 movie closely and u ll see urself how it was all done. The WTC towers came down in 8.5 and 10 seconds respectively! Thety were 1368 ft tall.. so if u know even the slightest of physics u can calculate the FREEFALL time of the towers to be = 9 sec ... Compare this time to the actual one i.e. 8.5 and 10 seconds for the north and south towers n u ll c that the towers came down at FREEFALL speeds...The only way buildings can collapse at free fall speed into their own footprints is by engineered demolition. Explosives are used to remove the support of floors below before the debris from above arrives. Otherwise, resistance is encountered and the time required for fall increases!

The "official explaination" was that the towers pancaked one floor onto another. If this was true then the towers should have come down in 1min 45 secs (calculated for pancake collapse with least resistance from each floor under) %u2013 much longer than the actual 9 seconds.

{Also, the initial fireball at the time of crash and the following few minutes consumed most of the fuel (agreed by all scientists) and the fires thereafter were not at all %u201Craging%u201D. Also, smoke is a sign of oxygen starved combustion which means that the fire is not burning efficiently. (u c all the smoke for all the hour and 45 minutes till the towers collapse.}

N where are the floors at ground ZERO.. a pancake collapse will NOT pulverize everything to dust like it was seen in the collapse. What kind of energy pulverized reinforced steel, & concrete in front of ur very eyes? THINK! Does jet fuel have that kind of energy?

I have literally tens of more eye opening points if u'd wanna learn more! (email : egonomics@gmail.com) Starting from the eye witnesses, the firefighters and ppl inside the building complaining of many EXLOSIONS --both mid level and ground level explosions --

n u ll love this one -- It is a known fact that sound travels slower than what u see --i mean, if there is an explosion far away, u ll SEE it before u can HEAR it--TRUE?
GO see the WTC collapse... the sound is heard BEFORE the collapse -- n thats the sound of the last of the BIG explosions going off -- that takes down the building! Go see it for urself!

N Read this: NO BUILDING HAS EVER EVER EVER come down due to FIRE...! True infernos have raged long and hard in many buildings burning for 20 long hours BUT not one has EVERY come down.
N on Sept 11, 2001 not one , not two, but THREE heavily steel reinforced buildings, that could stand the continuous battering of the fierce New York winds, came down. (three because South and North towers and also WTC 5 which was the STRANGEST of all the collapses)

HEED THIS: The reason for WTC Tower 5 collapse was rubble and sm fire from the North tower falling onto WTC 5! HAHAHAHAHA! DO U BELEIVE THAT???

Now why did Goerge W.Bush do all this? Why would he take down two of his finest buildings? why?

1. Main reason: To instill fear in the heart n minds of the US ppl so that they could get on board on his plan for war wid IRAQ (Afghanistan was juzz a hurdle along the road.. not the AIM)

n why IRAQ... SIMPLE ANSWER: OIL -->MONEY!

2. In Iraq again.. If US loses for example a TANK in the war, the %u2018Carlyle group%u2019, where GW Bush and his family have huge investments, makes money; and if Iraq loses a Tank i.e US wins %uF0E0 they get the OIL! (n dont even mention the PUPPET REGEIME installed by Bush in Iraq)

2. Larry Silverstein: The land owner of the WTC towers. He bought the land in July 2001, 2 months before the attack for $100 million for a 99 year lease... revamped and worked his insurance policies and after teh attacks claimed $7 BILLION for the attacks. n WHATS a fabulous return that is for his initial $100 million investment? wat say?

3. N why did they take down WTC 5 tower, i hear u ask! Well here is the list of the tenants who had offices in that WTC5 tower.
FBI , CIA, Secret service, Mayor Juliaani, and some insurance companies!
So need i say more for why they took down WTC 5?
WTC 5 was the COMMAND CENTRE from where Sept 11 was MASTERMINDED!


I m NOT getting into all the events that happened ON THAT DAY including the mid-level, ground level and basement explosions, unscheduled evacuation drills in the weeks leading upto 911 and the complete INACTION of NORAD whose sole purpose is to keep the skies secure for the citizens of US! Even if I try to get my ehad around their incompetence it is hard to believe I can understand that after the first tower was hit,
It could have been mistaken as an %u201Caccident%u201D BUT after the 2nd tower was hit and %u201CTERRORIST ATTACK%u201D was indeed confirmed and city was on high alert, how can NORAD not take action on a plane that goes dramatically off course and was heading the PENTAGON??? HOws that possible unless theyw ere asked to %u201CSTAND DOWN%u201D! n who has THAT power%u2014Chief of state George W. bush!

N FYI, in the year 2000, commercial airlines went off-course 57 times and in each case they were given an airforce escort. Where were the airforce on 9/11? NORAD??

N the Pentagon.. who knows wat hit there? Not a commercial plane that%u2019s for sure. The Pentagon was not hit by flight 77, but was hit by a missile under US orders. The impact crater in the Pentagon was only 18 feet wide, but it had just been hit by a Boeing 757 which has a wing span of 125 feet and a tail 40ft high! There was also little wreckage.

Firstly, the alleged terrorists pilots that manned that aircraft were flying school DROPOUTS and in their instructors own words %u201Ccould not even drive a car let alone a palce%u201D :P Sp the Pentagon claims that these dropout pilots flew a commercial plane 8m off the ground and crashed into the pentagon. Now apart from the fact that even the best skilled pilots in US cant fly a commercial plane 8m of the ground (the best can probably fly a smaller plane but not a commercial airliner), these %u201Cdropouts%u201D chose to maneuver the plane 270degrees and hit the side of the pentagon that was being renovated and not directly plunge the plane into Donald Rumsfeld%u2019s office%u2026 HOW thoughtful of them? HAHA

N Here is a lil surprise for u: Pentagon is THE MOST HEAVILY SURVEILLED AREA in the US if not in the world%u2026would u agree? Yet only two frames (not even photos%u20262 frames) of the crash were released and neither of them showed what actually hit the Pentagon. Gimme a break! N wats more, soon after the crash FBI and CIA agents drove to the nearly groceries and petrol pumps to confesticate their cameras which might have been pointing in the direction of the crash!!!
Wat else do u wanna know%u2026 Not convinced yet? I have many more but juzz cant list all the facts here! BUt i hope u get the jist.

So wats the relevance of all this IN THIS FORUM?
The relevance is this.... WE MUSLIMS have been INTENTIONALLY stereotyped to be violent and Terrorists! If u have not done a certain crime (eg.rape) and still u r stereotyped by the society to be a rapist, wouldn%u2019t u feel disgusted, revolted and rebellious? ANd specially when teh person calling YOU a rapist is himself a RAPIST? (Meaning GW bush calling Muslims terrorists!)

N THE SADDEST part of the whole story is that MEDIA (cnn, bbc, aajtak nad all Indian and world MEDIA) NEVER ever brought the whole 911 issue up%u2026 THAt it mite indeed have been a conspiracy%u2026 AS the FACTS clearly suggest.
Just this one fact that %u201CNever in the recorded history of this earth has a building come down due to FIRE %u2013not to mentioned the oxygen deficent 1 hr 45 minute long incomplete combustion (smoke) fire on 911 %u201D

I rest my case!


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by Eshwar James on Feb 19, 2007 09:57 PM   Permalink
Guldu Mohd, you r writing such a big story and you call urself a doctor. I really wonder whether you are one. u say no bldng can come down due to fire. Cant u imagine the heat generated by petrol in the flight and the impact of collission. What rubbish r u talking. Whom r u trying to convince? urself? or the bloody terrorists? some cracks made some movie, and u want the whole world to believe it. some craps wrote something abt white house being behind 9/11 u want to take that as proof. You must be a biggest FOOL.

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by M Tabish on Feb 20, 2007 12:40 AM   Permalink
HAHAHA .. my friend, U really are as big a foolas GW bush, if not bigger! Jet fuel burning CANNOT reach temperatures that could melt the steel!
THIS IS A WELL KNOWN FACT... u need to look up stuff b4 u discredit it!
The explantion put forth after considering THIS is that Steel looses HALF of its strength at 1800 F and thats the maax temp reached by burning jet fuel! So the trusses apprently (all 1000s of em falied and gave way for the upper floors to collapse onto the ones below)

GET THAT! So ur argument bout "the heat generated by petrol" is plain BULLSHIT! it juzz cant reach temperatures that can MELT STEEL!
(unless its used in conjunction with THERMITE..which can increase the fire temperatures to about 4500F and that can melt steel! (but If thermite was used it cannot have come from the aircraft /.. AGAIn it was planted...! SO it again confirms the CONSPIRACY! get that my DOUCHE BAG friend?

GEt ur facts straight first, b4 u discredit ME!

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by Sivam Kumaran on Feb 20, 2007 03:16 AM   Permalink
You are not a doctor, seems to be an Idiot. Go and treat your Bin Laden with your third rate post and quality.

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by Tabrez on Feb 20, 2007 08:24 AM   Permalink
There are bad elements in the Muslim community, which has to be looked into.. and corrected.. But not by labelling every single Muslim as Terrorists.. That will make some (atleast the youth) rebellious and agitated against the system.. There are ways to correct anything thats wrong... But it has to be done systematically.

And we all know that there are bad elements in every community.. No one can ever deny that Hindu community is spotless and they are innocent angels..

And yes, a person could be a freedom-fighter for a certain country, but that same person can be branded a terrorist or a militant.. For example, our very own great freedom fighters like Netaji and Bhagat Singh were termed as militants and terrorists by the British. So, its your own interpretation, you see.. In saying all this, I dont support the senseless kilings of innocents that are supposedly being done by Muslims in some part of the world and they certainly need to be corrected or punished...

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by Tabrez on Feb 20, 2007 08:29 AM   Permalink
Sorry.. In the above message "No one can ever deny that Hindu community is spotless and they are innocent angels.."

It should have been "No one can ever boast that that Hindu community is spotless and they are innocent angels"..

There are good and bad in every community.. Its just that the Muslim community's drawbacks and bad elements are more in spotlight and printed on front pages...

And if any crime happens around the world, everyone will start blaming the Muslims for it and it is printed on the first page of the paper or shown in headlines.. But if later on, the truth is found out that it wasn't Muslims who did that particular crime, it will be printed somewhere inside, in a tiny corner of the newspaper and doesn't even get a mention in the news.

And thats a fact.


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