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Come together in this hour of grief
by on Feb 20, 2007 04:56 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

"Allah tero naam Ishwar Tero naam sab ko sammati de Bhagwan"...................
Lets all be humans first,then Indians and then Hindu or Muslims a tragedy has befallen us instead of bemoaning and condemning this heinious act of terror we are fighting like insolent idiots,that is why terror wins and humanity looses we are all caught up in our cobwebs......all religion started to purge the grime prevelant in the day and today as self proclaimed spokesperson we are doing just the contradictory spreading the filth.........please abstain from it all religions are good and better still is the fact that we have a rational mind and lets put that to better use,in this world of the 21'st century lets put aside the talks of the stone age,as a hindu i condemn in the strongst of words the distardly acts of VHP,Bajrang Dal and i want my educated(in the rel sense of the word) Musilm friends to do the same against the Ulamah and the besotted Mullahs so that peace can rule the world and Humanity prevails in this beautiful nation of ours

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by Rajiv on Feb 20, 2007 05:46 AM   Permalink
dear frien,do u have any idea which religion is spreading terrorism thru'out the world & has words like "kill those who dont believe in our God"?B4 writing anything,just go & read that book.Any idea of what is "converting Darul-harab" to "Darul Islam" all about?

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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 05:55 AM   Permalink
Hi Rajiv;
Iam not as illiterate or ignorant as i might seem to be tell me has the policy "an eye for an eye" ever worked,look into the annals of the history and tell me,Lets talk about Haiti,Nicaragua,Palestine,Iraq,Afganistan,Salvador,Rawanda,Sri Lanka,Zimbabwe, secondly iam not opposed to strong and stern action against the terrorist hang them by all means but dont paint the non-guilty by the same brush just because u r a muslim doesn't mean u r a terrorist its that mindset iam opposed to,hope u understand and let peace reign otherwise through these venomous attacks we will distance the other community and make things more difficult for India as a whole

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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 06:31 AM   Permalink
Rishi i might sound ignorant but u r too ignorant to ever espouse any sane thinking,Haiti Nicaragua,Equador were all creations of tension(economic and social in this case) and what we now know as Muslim fundamentalism has been fanned by the USA ,it created the Baath Party in the Iraq to countercheck Iran,what it did in Sudan is not hidden to anyone............In Afganistan after getting rid of the USSR it just deserted them left them to die in their without any infrastructure or support and handed the powers to fundamentalist so that they have a central organisation through which US can spread its propoganda So treading in your lines since the US Forgein polices have gaps lets call them all miscreants and Incinerate them???
Thankfully 'aware' & 'pseudo-intellectual' like u too have not much of a role to play otherwise God Help this Nation!!!!!

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by rishi on Feb 20, 2007 07:58 AM   Permalink
Baath Party was less relatively less Jihadist and more Arab Nationalism.
Iran was the more Jihadist until 1992 when Saddam fell back on the time tested Quran to get popular support.

try your gibberish elsewhere..you have no idea.


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by rishi on Feb 20, 2007 08:00 AM   Permalink
the previous message was meant for Vikas and his pseudo secular ilk.

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by atindra shukla on Feb 20, 2007 07:09 AM   Permalink
What about pre-Baath party fundamentalism? Dont exhibit ignorance by going deep in history.

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by santhosh rai on Feb 20, 2007 06:01 AM   Permalink
hi,

what you say is good on paper not on practice.
everybody know what is the reality.

lets face it than singing these lines..

anyway who brought VHp here?? u already know that they did it??
or may be u are using this for getting the sympathy of muslims??

we dont say muslims are bad. some of my bent friend are muslims..

but whom are you trying to please??

wake up man! fact is a fact reality is a reality though you dont put it on black and white..

jai hind!
ia m sorry if u find faly in using the word hind may be u want ya to say jai india??

this
is
true
psudo
patriotism.

santhosh kumar.
indian



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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 06:38 AM   Permalink
I dont need any symapthy of anyone and i never thought that i commented on u saying anything about Muslims...........and what u r trying to communicate here is beyond my comprehension if some of ur best friends are muslim then u have double standards befriending jihadis or if they are good then what iam saying should have an element of truth in it right???

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by on Feb 20, 2007 08:13 AM   Permalink
I say, "There's a Terrorist in every soul." If you don't beleive me, then try to recall these lines when you start an argument with a stranger which turns into a brawl and then into a fight and ultimately you want to hit that person intending to cause hurt, pain or even death. "Anger is momentary madness." So tell me which of you is not mad, momentarily though?

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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 09:40 AM   Permalink
Sir,Iam not stupid to condemn VHP to show sympathy to the deceased passengers please look into the real perspective which is we don't need such organisations to tell us what to do as a Hindu and what not to do and i expect the same from our Muslim Brethrens(Read the part about the Mullahs and Ulamahs) so that we can have a lasting peace and iam not pseduo secular or am being cynical.

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by rishi on Feb 20, 2007 05:38 AM   Permalink
try reading the Quran...
u will stop singing allah tero naam and ishwar tero naam...and oly sing allah tero naam...

Quran is the problme man...if u really care about humanism, get rid of Islam ...Muslims will automatically become humans..

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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 05:49 AM   Permalink
Rishi,I have read bits of it and i have read Manu Smriti too which abounds of misplaced faith iam a devout Hindu and i believe in our Argumentative history i belive in the upnishads/Gita and the sufi traditions lets refrain from attacking any religion, iam based out of India and i can tell u out of experience that true Democracy exists in India our democracy,relatively young in age is mature to have put the matters of caste,creed,religion,race aside, look at USA,France some of the oldest democracies tell me how many of the head of States have come from the minority??? today the three most important posts accorded by the Constitution is occupied by members of the minority( President,Prime Minister and Chief Justice) please be proud of the fact and lets continue in the same vein through these acts Terrorists are trying to divide us force us into being narrow minded,peverts lets reinforce our faith in Humanity and quell all the anti national forces as Hindus and more importantly as Indians we have always been broad minded why the confusion now???

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by rishi on Feb 20, 2007 05:55 AM   Permalink
Vikas:
I reject the Manu Smriti (a Smriti is time bound unlike a Shruti like the Vedas which is eternal) and any Hindu scripture that you or any other person finds to be offensive...AND STILL REMAIN A DEVOUT HINDU.

Try getting a Muslim to reject the Quran...

then come back and argue with me..


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by atindra shukla on Feb 20, 2007 06:00 AM   Permalink
Its highly impossible to find a muslim like that may be Salman Rushdie?

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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 06:09 AM   Permalink
Its beside the point who agrees to what portion and what he chooses to disagree to the point iam trying to moot is that religion is not deciding economies or feeding people or creating jobs or educating nations............instead by protesting in the manned we are it will only increase the chasm and prevent growth, i don't think u want an India where there's more of theis violence there is more of this apathy, tell me why did the khalistan movement weaken, because with the advent of Green Revolution (in the late 70's and esp in the mid 80's) and subsequent Education,Indutrialisation and opening of mammoth agro Industries Punjab could answer terrorism by Economic prowess lets do the same now and reap the benifits or bear the brunt

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by Abdul Haleem on Feb 20, 2007 07:03 AM   Permalink
How can one say that the incident which took place was because of muslims. there might be some political party behind this. so stop pointing fingers towards muslims and islam. Islam has nothing to do with it. and people like u are useless who are always ready for blaming there fello citizens. I hope you understand english.

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by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 20, 2007 10:43 AM   Permalink
Hello Abdul,
Daily Bomb blast in Iraq, Afganistan and Pakistan. Who is behind these blasts. Tell me who are the victims.

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by Vikas on Feb 20, 2007 07:08 AM   Permalink
I beg your pardon,Mr.Haleem i do understand english but what i fail to understand is what exactly are you objecting at when in the world did i say Islam is responsible???I hope u know ur english.........

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by mahesh kumar on Feb 20, 2007 10:20 AM   Permalink
Times of India reports LET hand...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1640464.cms


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