Why are we still wasting time on mughals... let them go to hell! As a Hindu I dont give damn about any of these invaders.Mughals survived in India only because of the tolerance of Hindus.
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by Ramdas Iyer on Mar 04, 2007 08:57 PM Permalink
sorry friend, mughals survived not because of Hindu tolerance, but because Hindus quarrelled amongst themselves and betrayed their brothers. They do that even now. Even today we worship congressmen who slaughtered our Sikh brothers by thousands in 1984, but even though Narendrabhai Modi has turned Gujarat into the most prosperous state in the country, we still harp on the fact that he is a Muslim killer. The average Muslim of Gujarat is much more prosperous than a Muslim of UP that is being ruled by Mulla Mulayam or a Muslim of Kashmir ruled by Ghulam Nabi Azad
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by SHUQ on Mar 05, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
Ghaznavi and Mughals were invited at the behest of lower caste people. They invited them to get the required protection that was not available during the rule of hindu rajas.
To stop the exploitation of Lower castes Ghaznavi came and after annexing most of the India he only took away Indias' wealth. As he did not find any interest in ruling Indians.
Moghuls were different they fixed jizya tax and were providing security to all. It is a history of Babur who prayed to God to protect his child humayun and transform his life to humayun. And God answer his prayer and that is a history of God fearing muslim rulers.
Akbar has mostly hindus in his darbar of nauratans.
Aurangzeb was an angry young man he killed his brothers because he didnt like their lavish life style. He jailed his father because he was busy building monuments. He killed muslim saints like Sufi Sarmad and many others just because he did not like him. He attack Golkonda in Deccan and arrested Abul Hasan Tanesha just because he gave red carpet welcome to Shivaji.
But Aurangzeb was not brutal against common man he did justice to all sections. There were Hindu nawabs, patils and many other hindu administrators under his rule. There are still many hindu persons alive who had jagirs(given by Aurangzeb) from their descendants.
How can britishers or europeans or RSS call moghuls or muslims as extremists.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 05, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
More Madrassa indoctrination I guess:
In one instance specifically Al Utbi gives an idea of the gain from the sale of captives. According to his narrative, Mahmud, after his campaign in Mathura, Mahaban and Kanauj (1018-19), returned to Ghazni with, besides other booty, 53,000 captives and each one of these was sold for two to ten dirhams. From this statement it would be safe to infer that the lowest price at which an Indian captive was sold was two, and the highest ten dirhams. It would also be safe to conclude that slaves were captured by invaders to be sold to make money; for Utbi adds that %u201CMerchants came from different cities to purchase them so that the countries of Mawarau-n-nahr, Iraq and Khurasan were filled with them%u201D.8 Earlier, in the expedition to Thaneshwar (1015), according to Farishtah, %u201Cthe Muhammadan army brought to Ghaznin 200,000 captives, so that the capital (Ghaznin) looked like an Indian city, for every soldier of the army had several slaves and slave girls%u201D.9 Similarly, in the Kashmir Valley (1014 C.E.), according to Utbi, the captives taken %u201Cwere so plentiful that they became very cheap
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by Perv Sharma on Mar 05, 2007 05:08 PM Permalink
Yeah, then why are you sunni muslims harping at IRaq. The shia called americans to get rid of that tyrant SUNNI muslim called sadam hussain. And now India must do the same to Pakistan because despite asking and getting a separate land for Islamic brothers, they have ended up sending more Islamic refugees to the world than Hindu majority India. It' high time that shia's,a ahmedias etc, asked Indian Govt to interfere and finsih the partition.
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by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
the farmans Gautier mentions above show that Aurangzeb was worse than Hitler
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by sadiq hussain on Mar 04, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
He he he what a joke? there was no such thing as INDIA in those times,he he he,the sub continent had some hundreds of kingdoms fighting each other.Mughuls defeated ,remember they defeated ,them all and Aurangazeb made it one india.He he he .
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by Perv Sharma on Mar 05, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
he he he sadiq hussain
Aurangzeb defeated all. Read history again from your Mullah again. Has your Mullah heard about Shivaji. Read last 20 years of Aurangzeb because those 20 years he lost all the wealth that Akbar and his son earned. He died a lost man. He left a weak empire and after some years a Muslim king was only a dummy emperor. And this only because he defiated from the policy of Akbar. Just read once again. He's not the greatest rather he's the badest.
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by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
there were empires like that of Ashoka which united India, besides everyone in India were Hindus before the advent of Islam. The infighting was the cause of India becoming enslaved/conquered, although there is historical evidence to show that Hindu Rajas' of Kabul, Kandahar, Multan etc. had once joined forces to defeat Subuktagin who was trying to convert them to Islam by force. Aurangzeb lost India (because of his intolerance) - he did not make it one
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by sukhvinder singh on Mar 04, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
yes and then sikhs and marathas defeated muslims!!! and then in 19th century british tookover.... Good riddance to islam
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by chaitanya kumar on Mar 04, 2007 07:34 PM Permalink
muslim kingdoms were brought down in most parts through revolts from some unknown Hindus who rose up the ranks to takeover major chunks of territories of India before British took over the entire thing by siding with Muslims and supporting them against Hindu occupied areas. There was some resurgence of Hindu spirit which gained from strength to stregth even during british rule through reformation and conceptualizing the nationalist spirit before Gandhi spoiled it with his vagueness. still don't understand why Gandhi gained so much prominence among the Hindus of those times when they were surrounded by Islam and it's quest to suppress the Hindus. Must be a tricky guy, he used religious symbols from Hinduism to gain acceptance from masses. He did some good things too, but should have stayed a Hindu nationalist and kept away from appeasing Muslims.
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by True Indian on Mar 05, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
my dear SAD -IQ - HASS ---(p)ain, i think u know that Mohammad Gajnavi (by whose name Pakistan has named a messile) was defeated 16 times by Prithvi Raj Chauhan.... and finally he depefated Prithvi Raj Chauhan using bad tricks. this is your type of muslim people. he he he....
