Dear friends, Please stop encouraging such arguements in the best interest of nation and citizens. Why should we always discuss something relating to past and fight among ourselves ? Instead of talking about Aurangzeb, we can discuss great Mughal emperor AKBAR who did a lot to this country as a ruler. Preach, teach and learn something positive that will go a long way making India stronger and powerful ! I suggest our citizens to first learn how to love fellow citizens and India. Contribute to the development, eradication of poverty, curbing corruption and racism ! These are more important things now for India ! Please love INDIA and love every citizen !
RE:Why all these now ?
by Govind Raj on Feb 16, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
Mr. Gopi Nath, Why don't you preach to the Muslims too. Not your day to day people. They are as good or as bad as we the day-to-day Hindus.
But why not say, go to Kashmir and teach them Tolerance. Why not rehabilitate Kashmiri Pandits and give them back their lost Paradise?
If you have words of advice only for Hindus, then we are tired of them. We have grown up hearing them ever since we are born. All this tolerance stuff and secularism bluff is only for the Hindus. None of you Secular, Democratic, Liberal Intellectuals ever have any complaints about Muslim excesses and neither any words of advice.
Is anything wrong in preserving ones own religion ? can you please tell this to any minoritiy communities. I will give a small example :- We have a maid, Hindu by religion, who also works in Christian household in the neighbourhood. The first rule for her to work in this house is to remove her Sindhoor before entering the house. Please expalain me is this acceptable for any Hindu Women and as per you these are secularists (this is a small example).
Its just a remainder and eye opener how you will be treated once you become a minority in this country.
Did you speak to any Kashmiri Pandits ? Just find out, please explain me why they are living a second class lives in our own country in jhoppad Pathis in Delhi ? declaring shariat in Kashmir is a secular activity as per you.
Ask any of your friends and relatives who have worked abroad and how they have been treated by the so called secular minorities of India there.
RE:Why all these now ?
by Pankaj Choudhury on Feb 16, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
Kudos for your positive attitude, Mr. Gopi Nath. But dear friend, do you really think we should stop discussing about negatives in the past? Are you oblivious of the fact that our politicians are capitalising on the reasoning that huge chunk of reservation (50% to 63%) should be made for some sections of people and all the benefits of society should go to them who were supposedly underpreveledged in the past? On this ground, they are making crevices in the society and crushing the so called well off in the past under their boots? And ironically, the same govt. is now going to introduce reservation for the progeny of Aurangjib who did all these injustice to the nation as a whole and the hindus in particular. If evils about past should not be discussed, our govt shall lift all sorts of reservation rigt now and treat everyone equally so that the divisions among people on the basis of religions, cast, language ang place are minimized. After that, if anyone really needs some sort of help, say a meritorious student cannot study due to poverty, then help should be provided irrespective of his/her religion, cast etc. Pankaj Datta Choudhury
RE:Why all these now ?
by Anis Khan on Feb 16, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
I SALUTE YOU FRIEND. THIS IS THE BEST ATTITUDE Which will guide us to a UNITED And PROSPEROUS INDIA
RE:Why all these now ?
by rampant raider on Feb 16, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
How do you presume that akbar was great? are you a student of history?.If not please read some serious history books(the ones used to write a disseration)
RE:RE:Why all these now ?
by sunil kumar sunil on Feb 16, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
I wanted to added one more thing to this that day before yesterday i was watching KBC and with that i come to know that tansen was a hindu ( some.. mishra) and under akbar he was converted. I dont know what is the reason of converting.
RE:RE:RE:Why all these now ?
by Anis Khan on Feb 16, 2007 05:24 PM Permalink
YOU WILL NOT GET THE ANSWER, since TANSEN IS NO MORE and our historians are manipulaters of facts. SO LETS TOGETHER ASK TANSEN when we will meet after our death.
RE:RE:Why all these now ?
by Anis Khan on Feb 16, 2007 05:22 PM Permalink
My DEAR freind, TELL ONE SINGLE MAN WHO WAS GREAT, few say them great and few who didn't like them abuse them. EVEN the GREAT LEGEND OF INDIA "MAHATMA GANDHI" being abused.
RE:Why all these now ?
by Suresh GO on Feb 16, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
the problem, sir, is that you cannot start on a clean slate on a fine morning when you feel like! Human beings live in society and all what happened and all what is happening will matter. It will continue to matter and help shape up the future. No escaping that, no matter you want to or not.
RE:Why all these now ?
by sunil kumar sunil on Feb 16, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
That is what. Both side should understand that we are citizen of india. Nothing is bigger than motherland. There should not be any problem in singing national songs and rising unnecessary issue after 50 years of independence.
RE:Why all these now ?
by Nitin Jog on Feb 16, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
Why did the marxist write wrong and twisted history in the first place? Why did they not put facts as they were? Now when the marxist is to be proved wrong, why take recource to sermons about more important issues? When the marxist was actively distorting history, were there no more important issues? Why didnt these marxists simply put history as it was, as it would have taken least time without having to fabricate historical evidences? Thus the damage that the marxist has done must be undone. We must be clear about our past, so that we can think clearly of our today and make the tomorrow brighter. There is no reason to be shy or reluctunt in saying that either our eminent leaders of past years or our eminent historians of today have been seriously at fault while presenting our past to us. Let us clear this dirt and trash of history and its authors from amongst us and start with a new clean slate for the better tomorrow. Nitin S Jog, NAGPUR
