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  RE:An Indian Muslim
by anand chavan on Feb 18, 2007 02:39 AM   Permalink
You were hurt when babri masjid was brought down ok.. what did you feel when muslims destroyed temples in jammu and kashmir. What did you feel when muslims killed and raped women in jammu and kashmir and all kashmiri hindus had to flee from there homes. They were threatned either to excepts islam or live kashmir. where were you when biggest genocide was carried out in bangaldesh and thousands of hindus were killed???? you give me one instance and i can give you thousands.. so better for you not get into this debate

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  RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by Indian Muslim on Feb 18, 2007 02:48 AM   Permalink
Yes, but see the response to it Anand. Is it just left to the people to sort out?

No, We have the army stationed there , to not allow any further damage.





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  RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by chaitanya kumar on Feb 18, 2007 02:46 AM   Permalink
th question is, how should Hindus feel about the largest Genocide ever witnessed by mankind when Islamic hordes crossed Indus. Hindus are still existing and we are in hundreds of millions. There were structures and shock absorbers in the culture to maintain the identity though some of them must be reformed now. In any case, We have survived!!!!!!!!!! Not like the American Indians or Australia tribes who were massacared and are reduced to minute numbers. Now think before you type nonsense. You have no idea how angry a Hindu would be. Still we gave a Gandhi. Learn this spirit. Talk to your Mullahs. Reform your religion. Don't waste time here by posting nonsense propaganda about Hinduism. Marxists are not a credible source. They have their mission in denigrating some things.

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  RE:RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by Indian Muslim on Feb 18, 2007 02:54 AM   Permalink
Yes. Agreed The Islamic hordes came.

But we had the guts to fight, Big Army against a small one.

The Rajputs warriors, The Marathas to name a few.

But Aagain my question to you is, whats the fault of the present day muslim in that ?

Do we have to still stand trial ??

You say , you existed and are in hundreds of millions.

Now see the current scenario.

Do you think someone is trying to convert you by being the most socially, economicaly backward community ?
Why do you not agree, that muslims hav been left to their fate ??
That they everytime they show patriotism, its called show-off.







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  RE:RE:RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by mohd amul on Feb 18, 2007 04:40 AM   Permalink
why did u run from chinese,. No tech

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  RE:RE:RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by chaitanya kumar on Feb 18, 2007 03:06 AM   Permalink
Indian Muslim, your posts are nice and you talk some sense unlike most Muslims which is the main problem. The point is, your dedication should be first to India and next to Islam. That is the main reason that you are seeing all the problems. It's not about conversions or prejudice, though they have their issues and some are driven by them. They come only when fundamental basis of a nation is skipped. Indian Muslims must claim their heritage that they had before their ancestors converted. You cannot run away from it. It reality and i don't know why people behave this way and get isolated. That is a problem. You should identify with your Hindus and Christians in India more than any others. Others are secondary. Hindus in India don't give a damn about Hindus elsewhere. We are committed to the nation and others are next. Love Islam, but love India first. That is how nations behave. That is why they form nations. "Secularism" can go to drainage if this fundamental facts are not understood. Why did some Hindus become communal? reflect on it. do Hindus give a crap about world outside India? No right? Reflect on that too. Have a good night. Bye.

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  RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by Imaan on Feb 18, 2007 02:58 AM   Permalink
Your claims are as false as is your Identity. You can go to kashmir and see for yourself the destruction that you claim was wrought upon by muslims on kashmiri pandits!!!Even after a decade of militancy in kashmir and genocide of muslims by Indian Army a Shiva temples stands as it is in my friends locality in Srinagar!

I am not responsible for what happens to Hindus in Kazhakistan and Pakistan or Banglaistan.

I am only responsible for my Behaviour and my country!

If Muslim rulers were as bigot as you suggest India would havdid e been a Muslim country by now. It ruled by Muslims for 1200 years dude.

If you dont beleive this thatn u must agree that Hindus breed like rats and this is the reason they overcame this so called shock (genocide) of Hindus by Muslims. But I guees this is the the allegation u apply to muslims as far breeding is concerned!

Hindus themselves were a broken lot and fought each other and killed eachother before the hals came.

The great emperor Ashoka who fought a bloody battle where millions were butchered and rivers of blood began to flow was a Hindu dude. And the fight was between Hindus! Dont blame Muslims for the foolishness of urdid forefathers!

There are millions of temples still standing in Benaras where Aurangzeb ruled.This fact alone is sufficient to refute the above allegations of yours and hindu-fascists!

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  RE:RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by chaitanya kumar on Feb 18, 2007 03:15 AM   Permalink
Imaan have a nice day with your hate propaganda. Ashoka killed millions? What do you know about Ashoka really? Do you know he ruled most of India during his reign from Afghanistan to Burma? He killed not millions in Kalinga. In any case, what matters is the guy went through serious issues after doing that. He converted to Buddhism and tried to spread it through missionaries. His motivation is one of the main driving factor for spread of Buddhism. Buddhism is the most peaceful religion and recently some of the taliban dudes destroyed the Bamiyans and more than a thousand years ago, the ancestors of the same barbaric dudes wiped out the Buddhism from Afghanistan to North West and North India. what are you smoking man? You got some balls to talk that away about Ashoka. You want to spread lies, at least be smart. Prophet Mohammed and his personal record makes a fine reading. Ashoka is a kid before the issues Prophet had in his personal life. The things he did. Anyway, best of luck with your hate campaign. You will meet a lot of guys like me on the way if you want to go this way. Instead learn fact and learn the skills of debate.

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  RE:RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by suraj yadav on Feb 18, 2007 03:31 AM   Permalink
hey Imam..

i know its useless to talk with u.. but i want to reply ur one quote

Ashoka who fought a bloody battle where millions were butchered and rivers of blood began to flow was a Hindu dude

u r forgetting here.. whatever Ashoka fought for was political reason. he never killed and distroyed other countries to put his cultural or religion dominancy.. and i think ur weak in history as well.. i think u forgot after fighting Kalinga war.. he gave up fight and preached non-violence.. he was able to change his mind because he was hindu and he was not prohibitive by any sick teaching as in today's bil ladens reasons for hate are.

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  RE:RE:RE:An Indian Muslim
by zena on Feb 19, 2007 10:35 AM   Permalink
Imaan,
Get yr history right. India was under islamic rule for 762 years.
The temple in Somnath was first attacked by Mohd Ghazni of Turkey. Right up to the so-called moderate emperor Akbar, every time Hindus rebuilt the Temple it was torn down.
Muslims have a historical record of destroying churches and temples and then building their mosques on that same ground. Know why? Muslims are very greedy people, very territorial.
Go read proper history. Your ignorance is shameful.

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  RE:An Indian Muslim
by Indian Muslim on Feb 18, 2007 02:46 AM   Permalink
Look , I am a muslim too. And know what you are talking about.

I know very well that I have to ALWAYS prove my patriotism , which is by default for the hindus.

But then I dont blame totally the hindus for it.

But the way you go on about hinduism , is of no help.

This is a mad mad cycle of your religion and my religion.

My Patriotism goes beyond the idea of Hatred.

I know very well, that there are blood-bayers of muslims in the guise of organizations, political parties .

But I would never take your route.

There are a zillion websites exposing , each religion.

Coz If you want to hate somebody you can find a million reasons. Thats how it works. Human nature.

So leave their religion to them , after all thats what Quran says isnt it??

"Unto you your religion, Unto me my religion"
(Quran :109:6)

Having said all of these , I know very well.
The Indian Intellegentia who have posted most of the anti-muslim/islam comments have made up their mind to hate you , me and every muslim.

So, whatever happens , happens.

If you want to explain , explain , reply or give a proper response using your intellect.

Simply posting articles is SPAM. You need not put your theory on their throats.






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