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Mullah myths regarding Islamic Education the earliest
by Perv Sharma on Mar 11, 2007 02:12 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

The world's First University was established in Takshila in 700 B.C ( whereas the birth of Mohammed the prophet is around 700 A.D. - i.e about 1400 years after the university)

Students from all over the world aprrox- 10,000 studied in this university. That's one of the reason for finding even today so many Hindu names ariound Iran, Indonesia etc.

The university of Nalanda built in 4th Century B.C.

According to Forbes magazine the Sanskrit Langquage which is said to be almost 10,000 to 7000 years old or as Hindus know it - the language of the Gods is the most suitable language for Computer Software.

India invented the Number System. Zero was invented by Aryabhatta.

Ayurveda is the earliest school of Medicine know to humans.

The art of Navigation was born in Sindh around 5000 years ago. The word "Navigation" is derived from the sanskrit word " Navgatih"

The value of pi was first calculated by Budhyanan and he explained the concept of Pythagorean theorem. British scholars officially published in 1999 that he's works dates to 6th Century which is long before European mathematicans.

Algebra, trignometry, and calcus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th century.

The largest numbers the greeks/romans used was 106 whereas hindus used numbers as big as 1053.

Most of these were translated by Islamic invaders and that's how these reached Europe.

And these Mullah followers are coming out and claiming scientific and all these as if it belongs to islam.

If a Mullah preaches these as Islamic then it doesn't become true.

The place system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 B.C.

Upto 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world - Gemmological institute of America.

In view of these -

WE owe a lot to the indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made

Quoted by Albert Einstein




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  RE:Mullah myths regarding Islamic Education the earliest
by tabrez durrani on Mar 11, 2007 03:00 PM   Permalink
Ya u said it right! we owe a lot to indians that doesnt mean present india it means the indian subcontinent and we all owe it to the indian civilisation and not any religion which includes some parts of iran (land of aryans), pakistan, afganistan, bangladesh, srilanka, and by the way sind river is in pakistan now. but some of your claims are wrong the number system which we follow through out the world r called arabic numericals the arabs discovered decimal point, the word ALGEBRA The name is derived from the treatise written by the Persian mathematician Muhammad ibn M%u016Bs%u0101 al-Khw%u0101rizm%u012B titled (in Arabic %u0643%u062A%u0627%u0628 %u0627%u0644%u062C%u0628%u0631 %u0648%u0627%u0644%u0645%u0642%u0627%u0628%u0644%u0629 )Al-Kitab al-Jabr wa-l-Muqabala (meaning "The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing"), which provided symbolic operations for the systematic solution of linear and quadratic equations.the arabs were the first to measure the distance between the earth and the moom in 800AD they were the first draw maps of land and sea for navigation. ALL of todays organic chemistry fundamentals are based on Arab research many terms like ALCOHOL, ETHERS, ESTERS,etc are arabic words and we cannot neglect the contribution of the europeans who shaped our mordern science and technology like television, computers,etc, chinese were the first to make a mechanical clock , egypitian invented the wheel and made pyramds 3000 years ago all these civilisation contributed in building up of the knowledge we have now
SO mature up a bit see around u dont listen to crap, put ur time in doing some thing good for your country so that our great nation goes back to its glory days.
and one last thing HINDU is not a religion it is a geographical term given to the people living between himalays and sindhu river in that way people living in the subcontinent irrespectie of their religion are hindu. the brilliant people in india call themselves hindu because they dont know the name of their religion isn't that genius

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  RE:RE:Mullah myths regarding Islamic Education the earliest
by rajeev deshpande on Mar 11, 2007 04:09 PM   Permalink
Hi Tabrez
Its true that Egyptians built the pyramids thousands of years ago. It might also be true that Algebra originated in Arabia. But where is the Egyptian culture today? Where is the Arabic culture? Do we have religious freedom in Saudi Arabia? Does today's Saudi Arabia represent Al Jabr or does it represent Aurangzeb?

Hindus, fortunately, have preserved much of what was good, inspite of the Islamic aggression. Hinduism may not be a religion in the narrow sense, but isn't that good? That makes them less aggressive about spreading their own 'religion' and makes the world a much more peaceful place to live in.

Rajeev

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  RE:RE:Mullah myths regarding Islamic Education the earliest
by Perv Sharma on Mar 12, 2007 07:46 AM   Permalink
Mullah Follower Tabrez Durrani writing a book in 800 A.D. Here are the facts again world history facts and not your Mullah Facts, you can put forth your papers is you think what you write is correct and correct the World's Histoy in this regard. If rejected, shut your mouth and then you are welcome to Hinduism because your Mullah's being preaching all wrong and it also rubbishes your Quran off ? if your Islamic brothers grant you permission.




Fourth century
Author unknown
Bakshali manuscript, written in Brahmi (a script in the Sanskrit language) in India, used a number system with base 10, and symbols of 1 through 9 and 0

499 A.D.
Aryabhata the Elder (Hindu/India)
Wrote a document titled "Aryabhatiya," which covered algebra, geometry, astronomy, and the Indian numerical system. The first 121 verses were written in Sanskrit, the next ten in Geetika meter, and the last 108 verses in Aryavrata meter. In this document, he calculated pi more accurately than the Greeks. Later, Indian mathematicians calculated the value to nine decimal places. Greek influence is evident in the document.

820 A.D.
Abu Ja'far Muhammad Ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi (Muslim/Uzbekistan)
Translated the work described in "Aryabhatiya" into Arabic in a book titled al-Kitab al-mukhatasar fi hisab al-jabr wa'l-muqubala (The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing). The complete book was based on Greek, Hindu, and Babylonian sources. The Indian number system was called Hindustat by Arab mathematicians and became known as the Hindu-Arabic numeral system. After the book was translated into Latin in 1145 by Robert of Chester, it was introduced to Europe. The system then became known as the Arabic numeral system and eventually became the European standard. Al-Khwarizmi also wrote a book on astronomy and a treatise on algebra titled "Treatise on Calculation with the Hindu Numerals." No known copies of the Arabic version exist today.

Note: Many of the Egyptian, Babylonian, and Greek writings were placed in the Great Library of Alexandria. It was supposedly closed and partially destroyed in 391 A.D. by Coptic Christians, and the rest of the library was burned and completely demolished in about 640 A.D. by the invading Arab General Amrou (Amr?) under the orders of Caliph Omar (Umar?). However, it is claimed by some that the library was completely destroyed in 391. If that is true, how did several documents find their way to Byzantine and Roman scholars and in the fifth century? Some documents were eventually placed in the Vatican Library. It has been established that all the buildings were in ruins in 650 A.D. One can only guess how advanced the present day fields of science and mathematics would be if the library still existed.



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  RE:RE:Mullah myths regarding Islamic Education the earliest
by Piyush Bhargava on Mar 11, 2007 03:58 PM   Permalink
Hinduism is a way of life and does not need the sword to propogate itself unlike Islam.

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by amjadhussain on Mar 11, 2007 04:24 PM   Permalink
From where you bring Hinduism. Hinduism name given by Muslims. thanks to Muslims. As long as you are following thankful to Muslims they give name to your cultural practices.

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by Secular Indian on Mar 11, 2007 04:25 PM   Permalink
Just because they are called Arab numerals they are not "Arabic", that is what the Europeans called them as distinct to Roman numerals, this was because the Europeans were introduced to them via the Arabs. The decimal system is actually an Indian (Hindu) discovery. Interestingly most of what you call "Arabic" are actually Persian or Byzantium in origin. Al-Khwarizmi traveled to India to learn from the Hindus and he was not an Arab, Al-Khwarizmi was born in Khwarizm (now Khiva), Russia.

Regarding algebra it was not an "Arab" invention:

The history of algebra began in ancient Egypt and Babylon, where people learned to solve linear (ax = b) and quadratic (ax2 bx = c) equations, as well as indeterminate equations such as x2 y2 = z2, whereby several unknowns are involved. The ancient Babylonians solved arbitrary quadratic equations by essentially the same procedures taught today. They also could solve some indeterminate equations.

The "Arabs" get a pat on the back for acting as bees by cross fertilizing ideas between the East and the West. There own contributions are rather limited. What they didn't get from the Indians they got from the Greeks.

The religion of the Hindus is Sanatan Dharama it's popularly known as Hinduism but that in no way diminishes Sanatan Dharama.

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  RE:RE:Mullah myths regarding Islamic Education the earliest
by Perv Sharma on Mar 11, 2007 04:07 PM   Permalink
These facts are related to an era when even your prophet wasn't born and there wasn't a religion called Islam.

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by Piyush Bhargava on Mar 11, 2007 03:48 PM   Permalink
Well one thing is for sure.Numerals or no numerals.Islam is a barbaric religion and Yes HINDUISIM is a way of life.It survives against all odds and does not need the sword to propogate itself unlike Islam.

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