RE:Auranjeb gave a new religion to Indian as HINDU religion
by on Feb 19, 2007 03:56 AM Permalink
TO: ALL PSEUDO SECULAR SO CALLED 'HINDUS' OF INDIA, and all anti hindu lot in india and elsewhere.
I am not really surprised why condition of present India and Hindus are such, given there are plenty of 'Ostrich' like you with their head deep in sand thinking 'troubles' will go away, and 'everything is fine' attitude. Its a shame that it takes a white french to tell indian like you 'your own history' and how you can learn and set the record straight. There is so much problem all over the world, how long do you want to live in denial? No one wants confrontation and no one certainly invite bloody situation, but why are you advocating all indians not to know 'the real history of India under muslim rule, speciafically under aurangzeb's' ? what do you mean when you say 'rake up more Gujrat' ? you must be thankful that you were not born in kashmir, and your hindu family wasnot chased out of kashmir. More over, answer me this question and try to be realistic and honest- will India still be a democracy, if majority of Indians become muslims, or , if muslims become majority? Here is the answer- India will have shariat law and hindus like you wont find a place to hide in their own homeland. if thats hard to digest, then ask the hindus of pakistan and bangladesh. you commented that 'You are simply throwing stone on a barking dogs head' , so you yourself are accepting that 18% indian muslims are ready to pounce on 78% majority hindus given any excuse. wake up and smell your coffee, your wishful thinking of living in peace with violent ideology of islam wont hold true. thats what Gandhi Ji wished too, and its a big internal security risk for India now. Pls do not live in denial, and be part of an India that does not hide its dirty messy history thats full of opression and genocide of its people (read 'hindu- that includes buddhists, jainis, and sikhs). as for this jain moron, read history good, your mahavir swami just another hindu philosoper in the line of many. so much for your 'jain pride'. dude, no body knows about jainism outside of india, so relax and learn to live in the bigger hindu social frame work, thats your destiny. peace!
RE:Auranjeb gave a new religion to Indian as HINDU religion
by on Feb 19, 2007 08:58 AM Permalink
Amit Jain,
Before the coming of muslim rulers and before Buddhism and Jainism, there was the Adi Sanatan Devi Devta Dharam in India for 2.500 years. Ignorant soul! Do some reading.
RE:RE:Auranjeb gave a new religion to Indian as HINDU religion
by Chankya Pandit on Feb 19, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
Hey Amit CLUELESS jain, Obviously you have a lot of jealousy hatred and venom against SANATAN VEDIC DHARMA. I am not surprised, as I always knew how it might have psychologically felt being a tiny tiny tiny sidekick minority(like you) in the homeland of Sanatan dharma(present day hinduism, if you will. atheistic philosophies like jainism buddism etc etc etc came under the bigger frame of hinduism and they shamelessly borrowed all the eastern dharmic principles(karma reincarnation samsara etc) from vedic scriptures especially upanishads. its like copyright violation, but guess what! Sanatan Dharma absorbed and made space for these Nastik(atheistic) philsophies too without any bitterness or ill will. all indian philosophies that evolved in this holy land later on are merely copy cut paste version of original vedic scriptures. infact this is not the place where people are talking about place of jainism / buddism etc etc(copycats) in india and whatnot, and then here you are Mr amit Clueless bitter jealous Jain marching alone to take on your mummy and daddy(read hinduism). problem here is aurangzeb and islamic ideolgy that have done irreparable damages to India and hindu ( including you jains buddists sikhs et al). if you have genuine grievances, or if you are looking for a better recognition, we can talk about it in another board. Concentrate on the topic here(aurangzeb), do not act like muslim minority of India who are ready to go at majority hindu at any given excuse. trust me, you jains belong only with us hindus. if you do not believe me, ask your other jain friends. as for 'sanatan devi devta dharma', i will just tell you this- we are your daddy when it comes to anything and everything(philosophy or whatnot. you guys came from us- at best, you are just another branch of sanatan dharma. at worst, you are a religion of atheism. you asked me to do some reading. i do not want to disappoint you but looking at your two liners i can tell you i am daddy there too. no pun intended.
RE:Auranjeb gave a new religion to Indian as HINDU religion
by S B Patel on Feb 19, 2007 03:26 AM Permalink
Dear Amit, Do you know who Mahavir or Vardhman was? He was a Hindu or you can say a tribal who did not have a name. Same is for Sidhdhartha later known as Budhdha.
And this very philosophy- DHARMA is not a religion. The English word religion does not define our Dharma. Read Bhagini Nivedita's Book. Today what do you think about BHAKTI ? Is it devotion? If you say yes, you don't know what Bhakti means.
I request you to not to malign our great BHARATIYA DHARMA OR HINDU DHARMA BY just giving it a name and making it narrow. As you might know "BHAGVAD GEETA" our main scripture, does not have a single word called HINDU, it talks about WHOLE MANKIND OR HUMANKIND.
So learn from Mahavir and Budhdha - and start reading BHAGVAD GEETA. which was told by the great incarnation Lord Krishna.
RE:Auranjeb gave a new religion to Indian as HINDU religion
by Day lambu on Feb 18, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
You fools can only understand concepts of organized religions. Hindu-"ism" which is not an ism at all, is much greater than any organized religion. It has survived 5000 years inspite of these narrow minded idiots trying to convert and destroy it and will survive another 5000 years when these so called organized religions will cease to exit. Have you heard of Adi Shankara, have you heard of upanishads? the advaita philosophy? No other scripture on this earth can match "The Gita" in its profoundness and relevance to life irrespective of the age we live in. The Quran and Bible can only be compared to "Manusmriti" which is not Sanatana dharma in any way and don't represent the HIndu philosophy. Jainism and Budhism are not different in their basic premises and are extension of the same philosophy, a philosophy which encourages self inquiry rather than blind belief and faith as is propogated by these organized religions, meant for morons
RE:RE:Auranjeb gave a new religion to Indian as HINDU religion
by chaitanya kumar on Feb 18, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
we know what happened to peaceful Tibet.
