RE:Merit My foot !!!! By V T R
by Jeffrey Mittal on Mar 24, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
Ekalavyan
It seems that you have a lot of venom in you. So I am writing to refute your arguments and your persecution complex. Before your expected response, I AM NOT A Brahmin or in any way related to one..
So here goes
Krishna Iyer can say what he wants but lets us ask a few questions If he was so concerned about the caaste sysytem, why did he not remove his caste surname "Iyer"?
The so called Caste sysytem is a convenient name given by the British to divide and rule the people who have faith in Sanatana Dharma or Universal Truth (labeled Hindus by the Perisans as they lived near the Sindhu river and the people from Persia could not pronounce "s" and said "H" instead of "S"). These same Persians were prosecuted by the Muslims in Persia(modern day Iran) and sought refuge in India and are now known as the "Parsis"
The multiple Varnas are by your abilities not by birth.(If you read and truly understand the scriptures rather than cutting and pasting from some website) This is derived from a variety of combinations of Sattva, Rajas and Tamas, which is in ALL human beings. BTW, I hope that you know the story of Ratnakar, aslso known as Sage Valmiki and the story of Sage Ved Vyas, born of a fisherwoman This division is present in every society, including Communist society.There have been and will be individuals who misuse this. Just pointing at them and saying "see I told you so" is ridiculous and immature.
Your statement above "Once we regain our human rights through reservations, we automatically become rich." is bordering on the ridiculous. Wealth is created by hard work and not by usurping or stealing it. So your attempts at making your self the saviour of "human rights" is hypocritical.
Lalu Prasad Yadav stole frol ALL the people when he amassed his wealth and by your logic when 85% of the people are Harijan's (God's children) then he hurt them much more than that 3% he stole from the Brahmins. By the way he is also fat(reference to your statement above).
You still like to use the long reufted Aryan theory to talk about Aryan Gods fighting with each other. From this, I must deduce that there is no Quarrel among Shias, Sunnis, Ahmadiyyas or Catholic , Protestants, Mormons etc. or among Russians and former colonies or among ehtnic Chinese, Taiwanese, Mongols or the Hutus and Tutsis (only one million murdered)
It is very convenient to bash one group of people to try to prove your point while conveniently ignoring the real truth.
Your arguments are clearly directed at distracting from the message of this article, which is indeed the truthg about Aurangazeb and try to put Hindus on the defensive.
This will hopefully make them embarrassed so that they do not have pride in their heritage and shy away from it, so that then they can be divided and rendered powerless.
I do recognise the fact there are problems but your vicious attempt at trying to split the Hindus by using the Caste, resevation, multiple Gods (which is again quite wrong) and Aryan invasion theory are very clever and vicious.
Yes, I do have responses to EVERY ONE of your arguments and just posting huge amounts of copied material is not going to obscure the truth, which is that the article proved a point which has been papered over by people like you for many generations.
Aurangazeb was a tyrant and he was a vicious, cruel and pathetic human bieng.
RE:RE:Merit My foot !!!! By V T R
by Ekalavyan on Mar 25, 2007 09:33 AM Permalink
Your comment comment is shallow, and replied many a time. Arguments illogical and unscientific. Class division is hirizontal; caste division is hierarchical. Think it over!!!
RE:RE:RE:Merit My foot !!!! By V T R
by Jeffrey Mittal on Mar 26, 2007 06:51 AM Permalink
Nice try
"your comments are shallow"
The comments only reach the depth of the recepient as per their ability.
There is no change to the Universal Truth (Sanatan Dharma). It is the most scientific AND logical set of truths
It is certainly not blind, dogmatic belief in what somebody (on a mountain or from a cave) said or revealed to somebody else (fishermen or tribesmen, barely literate Who then wrote it down many years later (with many versions) and then all the followers blindly accepted these as some kind of rigid truth or were eliminated. That is definitely logical and very scientific.
The issue is that it(Snatan Dharma) requires some basic effort to understand it. However, try as YOU might, you cannot distort the truth.
I see from posts below that your kinship with the people you quote exposes your agenda. "Brother Bullit" indeed
Keep it up.
Just repeating lies,distortion will NEVER tarnish the truth.
RE:Merit My foot !!!! By V T R
by G S on Mar 24, 2007 10:19 PM Permalink
I am upper caste and i am okay with your thoughts. But mere shouting and not willing to change is also stopping the progress. We upper and lower caste should promote mixed marriages, award mixing of people and families. Take some Concrete action too........PLEASE !
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by Ekalavyan on Mar 24, 2007 10:28 PM Permalink
Inter caste marriage and inter dining wont liquidate caste system. Please go through "Anhiliation of Caste" By Dr Ambedkar Thanks for your noble thinking
