Why is all the pressure on Muslims? Christians too are converting in India and with impunity. Their divine centre of catholicism in Kerala is the largest centre of orgy and depravity. what action has hindus taken against them that they are commenting on muslims who follow tehzeeb and culture
RE:Why are muslims being targeted here
by Secular Indian on Mar 15, 2007 02:12 PM Permalink
Once they start down the "peaceful" path of Islamic terror then perhaps. Though they are part of the same intolerant and discriminatory Abrahamic tradition. The you are either with us or against school of thought.
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by Rasheed on Mar 15, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
Intolerant and discriminatory Hindutva is no less an evil than Islamic terror. Hindutva brigadiers always look for an "Other" to justify their hatred and venomous propaganda. You are either a Hindu or the "Other," be it Muslim or Christian.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 15, 2007 02:58 PM Permalink
Sure, but what are the Muslims doing about. Hindus on the other hand are doing something about it, if the RSS (ideology) was 1/4 as popular as Muslims claim, the muslims would find it very difficult to live in this country. In the same way that Hindus have been hounded in the muslim paradise of Pakistan and Bangladesh. So please reserve your sanctimonious crap for other matters.
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by Rasheed on Mar 15, 2007 03:15 PM Permalink
Liberal Hindus are surely raising their voice against radicalism. But you are surely not one among them. In your sanctimonious preachings of the Hindu civilisation, you conveniently turn a blind eye to radical cults within Hinduism. Now do you call that an aberration.
The RSS ideology has its supporters, much more than the quarter that you mentioned. One look at a majority of Hindu posts in this message board will conclusively prove where they stand.
About Muslims finding it difficult to live in this country, I agree with you. The Gujarati Muslims living in fear in their ghettos is adequate proof. And please don't get into this ridiculous logic of yours, citing Pakistan and Bangladesh to cover up your running dirt in this country.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 15, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Where are the liberal muslims raising their voices anywhere in the Islamic world. Only from the safe sanctuaries of the West. Why ? I'm not even a Hindu so you can drop that angle. I do have a problem with Islam and the danger is very real. Regarding the posting of messages by Hindus, if you read carefully it was the Muslims that went into their usual victim-hood mode and went on the offensive, just like you are doing now. The article was about Aurangzeb but the Muslims chose to defend him and any rational person would find that stupid and absurd.
Regarding the Gujrati Muslims, sure they live in fear but lets not forget the Hindus of Kashmir, the Hindus of Pakistan and Bangladesh (or what's left of them). You can trace it right back to the day the first muslim stepped on the shores of this land.
If this was an India specific problem (the muslims) I would have sympathy for your view point. In the world we live in today people have access to real time news and the terror that is unleashed worldwide in the name of Islam can't be explained away by pointing your fingers at Hindus.
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by Rasheed on Mar 15, 2007 04:11 PM Permalink
Centuries of Islamic rule has not destroyed the fabric of Hindu society in India. Perhaps the all inclusive nature of Hinduism could be an explanation, I don't dispute that.
I have no quarrel with you on the lack of liberal thought in Islam right now. But you cannot deny the collective onslaught of the Western media on everything Islamic, although the West had a very key role in holding up undemocratic regimes of the Middle East.
But can you apply the dynamics of global Islam to India. My concern is not about the role of the Prophet or the Holy Quran.
I am against terror, Islamic or otherwise, so you can count me out of the Mullahs who defend them.
For Muslims in India, radical Hindutva is indeed a India-specific problem (ignoring the substantial donations that find their way from NRIs, masked as charity contributions). By citing that problem, I do acknowledge the presence of radical Islamists in India.
By showing the Muslims that they are the followers of a terror cult, you are not making their conversion to a more "humane" religion as you profess, any easier.
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by Rasheed on Mar 15, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
As for your observation of Muslims finding the article on Aurangzeb offensive, I draw your attention to another article posted by Sheela Bhat on the Gujarat riots. Browse the radical anti-Islamic posts there. They didnt need any provocation to react that way. The article was provocation enough, I suppose. And the writer did not talk about someone who ruled centuries ago, but a very contemporary issue.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 15, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Rasheed,
After reading your latest post, I apologize for some of the invective (that targeted you personally). I acknowledge that Islam is under the scanner and very close scrutiny. But I reiterate, the question to ask is why is that so ? It can't *all* be unfair.
Honestly I don't know what else to do, so I guess I'm in the business of description rather than prescription.
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by JATIN HALDANKAR on Mar 15, 2007 02:58 PM Permalink
Cut the Crap ..Mr.Rasheed ..you have Jews ,Parsis staying here since ages with hindus.. trying to escape islamist onslaught,.,,,
