Hindu people and nation of Bharat as a collective entity needs answer, and they deserve the TRUTH thats being intentionally destorted and hidden behind the walls of sickularism minority appeasement etc. at the end of the day, India is a Hindu majority country (and thats why secular), and record MUST be set straight viz a viz its past. and if India is developing so fast, its Hindu economy, if you please. no one is saying stop development and build temples on their original places(kashi ayodhya mathura and more). they can happen in parallel. the bigger picture is here of identity and national character. japan is japan, coz of its inherent japanese culture and ethos, so are other countries like china russia rome or saudi arabia. likewise, India has its very own culture and heritage(land of indic religion-namely sanatan dharma, buddism, jainism, sikhism). realising that to be its orginal identity and learning the 'true nature' of islamic rule in India is not only important, but becomes very relevant in the present geo political scenario. its a moral obligation upon every indian to pass on 'history of india as it was'.
we are not atheist communist from china, for Lord Rama's sake. we will have ayodhya mathura kashi , just like muslims have their makka, xians have their vatican, sikhs have their golden temple in amritsar. its only justified to the majority of people. israel is the homeland of jews, so is India homeland of Hindus(incld. jain,buddist,sikh). muslims and christians are over privilleged guests alongwith communists.
There should be a movement all over the world to expose and bring awareness in the whole world regarding:
1.islamic onslaught of India,
2.muslim agression on hindu culture,institution and religion throughout islamic rule
3.Hindu holocaust by muslim invaders
4.plight of hindus in kashmir, pakistan, and bangladesh.
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by In on Mar 01, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
Thats what u are mistaken; Muslim and christians are also Indian, they too have a valid Nationality. They are not guest they are here on this motherland since the time u are here. Furthermore India is a Democratic (secular) country. If u are trying to say it is Hindu country, u r hitting its democracy and secularity.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 01, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
You are right they too are citizens and nothing is going to change that. But they are citizens of a country that is part of the Hindu civilization. The plurality that we all enjoy is thanks to the core principles of this great civilization. In the same way that Saudi Arabia is is part of the Arab civilization and the intolerance that people suffer there is because of the Islam.
Why aren't Hindus allowed to construct temples in Saudi Arabia ?
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by In on Mar 01, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
I understand your feelings. but the reason is not Islam, it may be because of people there; there may be other wrong practices going on also. But I agree people should have the right and their place for worship. And this should not be interfared by anyone.
We should not copy what others doing, its not from Islam neither from indian civilization, ours is a great country and very soon we can make it more great at the top for the world to respect. Don't trow urself out and make others to misuse it, ur life is meaningful and is for some good purpose.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 02, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
Well at least you acknowledge that the Arabs are stupid for not allowing temples and churches in their countries. But why are people like Dr. Naik justifying these practices like his 2 plus 2 equals 4, therefore you can't have a temple in S. Arabia. Then he goes on the say that Islam is the only way and its the rest of the world that needs to be brought to the fold of Islam . I'm not making this up, watch the video on YouTube for yourself. Isn't this based on the idea of Dar-ul-Harb and Dar-Ul-Islamic doctrine.
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by Perv Sharma on Mar 03, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
We can make it great if we don't become slaves again. For that we need to have self-defence. Forget Aurangzeb we can, what about modern problems created by islamic followers starting from asking for separate land for Paki or threatening Civil War. Then Hindu Kashmiris being ethnically removed, then those wars right upto Kargil. Pakistan's denial about its involvement but the prime minister of Pakistan then went and signed teh Washington Accord the next day for withdrawal of some of the troops from kargil. These are the main reason for the hatred more than Aurangzeb and what he did. And to sum it U can see the denial that Aurangzeb never did any injustice. He did it because he was a king and he had to control. Well, then the people who say this should understand that Aurangzeb no longer rules India and the Hindus will be giving back a lot in return now.
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by biju nair on Mar 01, 2007 08:28 PM Permalink
When some body tells the truth these intolerents report abuse. They do all the propoganda. This is not their fault this all prone to happen in Kali Yuga. Refer the below link. http://www.adishakti.org/_/description_of_the_age_of_kali.htm
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by Name on Mar 01, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
No no, again one mistake here... Its only "Allah" will never allow people who add associates to Allah or do Idol worship. And this will be seen after the Day of Judgement (destruction of world - OR- Pralay).
So many times it has been written get info from authentic source.
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by Chankya Pandit on Mar 05, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
India is a HINDU (majority)country, and thats why you are enjoying the 'democracy and sickularism'. I am not hitting on values and ethos of India, i am just proclaiming it by making it clear that whatever democracy etc India is, because of its essentially HINDU culture and civilisation. rest is the product of barbaric islamic invasions, imperialism, and distorted indoctrination (marism/communism)to the clueless masses of India. Yes, indian christians and muslims are indian ethnic group, and they carry indian nationality, but they will HAVE to live under the bigger umbrella of hinduism, as its majority religion and homeland of hindus. go to any other country in the world, and try to force your way of thinking, or living on their society, and watch what you get in return. thats why i said, xtians and muslims are pampered lots(brats), and they need to find their 'place' in society. India is not europe or america or saudi arabia. we are mostly hindu, and thats how we like it. live like younger brother with respect and dignity, not with the muslim mob mentality. and if you are finding it hard to digest, i will say it again- India is a HINDU country. relax, we are not eating others out, its just the fact. learn to live with it. and all your talk about democracy-India is because its mostly hindu. more clarification!
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by Secular Indian on Mar 02, 2007 04:55 AM Permalink
India is a Hindu country take it or lump it. But it is secular. You can't wish away the 85% Hindus, the democracy that every citizen enjoys is because of the plural nature of the Hindu civilization. No amount of sophistry or chicanery can change it.
