freinds, we don't complain to the people who does the evils. WE ONLY ACT. and you know how?
losing a battle is never end of the war in ISLAM. Jihad goes on against the evils.
and NAMAZ, ROZA, ZAKAT, HAJJ, and PREACHING about peace and justice, all these goes on and on. Never stops.
Chengis Khan and Timoor Lang and Roman and Persian Empires could not stop us. Who are these American or British cow boys and crazy girls, most of them ILLEGITIMATE?
Islam does not need government or Empire for its propagation and Flourishing. It can be in America, China, Russia, England etc.
Heard of Cat Stevens or Classuis Clay? they embraced ISLAM and not Hinduism, Buddhism etc.
AR Rahman / Kamala Das and many indians also embrace every day.
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by JATIN HALDANKAR on Mar 16, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
about 1000 years birth of islam and after so many crusade amongs non muslim countries and ruling them you still could not surpass christanity which is 2.3 billion presently ... giving few odd examples of AR Rahman ..can you change mind of majority ?..this example can be booast to your sagging spirit but far from truth ... you guys will grow in number only through breeding among your self ..not otherwise ..
Christainity means followers of Jesus Christ. but no body follows Him.
except some nuns and clean-shaven popes. they are also doubtful. reports come about their sexual abuses. only Mother Teresa can be named. that too, in a place like India where Churches influences is least.
In fact, muslims follow him more than any body. Muslims grow beards, dresses full body, never worshipped idols, preaches peace and justice to others etc.
actually, those 2.3 billion people foolow the RELIGION OF EVIL like those money, materials, maya, movies, media, wine and women.
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by JATIN HALDANKAR on Mar 16, 2007 06:47 PM Permalink
money, materials, maya, movies, media, wine and women are also followed by Muslim community ,,,and all this things can be proved ... :)
few exceptions are there in all community who doesnot do all this things ...
prayers ,fasting ,pilgrimage is part of every religion ..ppl are doing it through ages from all religion...what is so new you spoke in context of islam ??
One of the descedant of Chingis khan ..controlling west asia converted into Islam from buddhism and he forced it on its subject ... tats how islam got spread in west asia...
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by Secular Indian on Mar 17, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
Berke converted to Islam and became a devout Muslim. This resulted in the Blue Horde becoming primarily Islamic, and its subjects professing Muslim faith.
Berke Khan was the Khan of the Kipchak or Golden Horde[1] who effectively consolidated the power of the Blue Horde and White Hordes[2] from 1257 to 1266. He succeeded his brother Batu Khan of the Blue Horde (West) and was responsible of the first "official establishment" of Islam in a Mongol state[3] and came to the aid of the Mamlukes in defence of the Holy Land in the Battle of Ain Jalut against another Mongol state, the Ilkhanate.
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by Mir Ali on Mar 17, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
Mr. Subbu just saying all this rubbish dosnt mean it is true . for your info even after so much of crticism still ISLAM is the fastest growing religion in the world. AND MIND MY WORDS NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO STOP IT. YOU CAN SAY OR WRITE WHATEVER U WANT BUT NOBODY CAN DENY TRUTH. ISLAM IS THE BEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD AND WILL BE BEST AND CONTINUE GROWING.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 17, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
It's certainly growing in the US prisons, perhaps it's the violence that appeals to them. Or it could be that it's OK to commit crime as long as you claim you are doing it for Islam and when the cops shoot at you, you can always appeal to the Ummah by claiming that Islam is in danger.
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by pranat on Mar 16, 2007 11:41 PM Permalink
perfect, i am sure that 100% of the world will adopt Islam if Islam preaches peace, brotherhood, freedom to women to work and educate, spread litrecy and mordern education science and maths, spread Jihad against - poverty, social equality, women welfare and education, hygiene and sanitation. Then there is merit in wanting Islam to spread. But if radical Islam is the only Islam that spreads and Jihad is only against Kafirs, then Islam might spread but it will also lead to many Iraqs and even Allah will not like that pain in the 100% muslim Ummah.
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by wada pav on Mar 16, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
1.Taimur Lang and Persian empires were muslims by the way.Chengis Khans grandson Kublai Khan was a muslim too! 2.Never heard of Cat/Dog Stevens. Have u heard of Steven Seagal (Under Siege wala ), he has become buddhist , and so has Richard Gere . 3.Ever guessed why Baba Saheb Ambedkar chose Buddhism and not Islam ? read his autobiography,then u will understand. Mullahs came to his house with suitcase full of money,he asked them to get out! 4.Black people like cassius clay and others join islam not knowing that arabs were the biggest slave traders in world history.while christain slave trade happened only for 250 years ( from 1600AD to 1830 AD, Muslim slave trade in north africa continued for 1200 years from 7th century AD till 1928 ( Saudi Arabia banned slavery in 1928 ). Caste system and untouchability are much better than slavery,u will agree.
