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by Secular Indian on Feb 22, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
I will answer the question regarding Kerala and ignore the rest as they are of no concern to Indians. If the Malayasians and Indonesians are happy with Islam then more power to them.
Excerpts from Tipu's letters as researched by the distinguished Kerala historian K. M. Panicker, which he reviewed in the Bhasha Poshini magazine, August 1923:
1. Letter dated March 22, 1788, to Abdul Kadir: "Over 12,000 Hindus were honoured with Islam. There were many Namboodri Brahmins among them. This achievement should be widely publicised among the Hindus. Then the local Hindus should be brought before you and converted to Islam. No Namboodri Brahmin should be spared. "
2. Letter dated December 14, 1988, to his army chief in Calicut: " I am sending two of my followers with Mir Hussain Ali. With their assistance, you should capture and kill all Hindus. Those below 20 may be kept in prison and 5000 from the rest should be killed from the tree-tops. These are my orders."
3. Letter dated January 18, 1790, to Syed Abdul Dulai: " ...almost all Hindus in Calicut are converted to Islam. I consider this as Jehad."
I hope that answers your question regarding Kerala. Regarding people who choose to accept Islam on their own volition again I say their choice, good luck to them. It's childish to look for poster boys to prop a weak argument.
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by mohammed sahim ahmed on Feb 23, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
My dear secular........ when i say..... AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices.........
i mean.... it's natural to be INTOLERANT towards larger INJUSTICES..... in fact it's desired..... ok??????
and so.... jehad is needed. JIHAD means organised effort/struggle to remove/kill the badness from SELF....SYSTYEM....SURROUNDING and if needed those MEN who comes on the way of that effort.... ok?????? GANDHI/BOSE/BHAGAT/TERESA/BABA-AMTE/MILITARY GENERALS.... all did or are doing JIHAD their own way... ok???????
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by Secular Indian on Feb 23, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
No, Jihad in practice is invoked to kill Kafirs. Why do muslims kill non-believers and call it Jihad ? Did you read the excerpt from Tipu Sultans letter, I will post it again:
3. Letter dated January 18, 1790, to Syed Abdul Dulai: " ...almost all Hindus in Calicut are converted to Islam. I consider this as Jehad."
This is after he had clearly dispatched orders to kill and convert the kafirs.
Listen, play your word games elsewhere, its getting a little tiresome.
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by omprakash valvekar on Feb 28, 2007 03:34 PM Permalink
The Author here is not aware about the history. Auranzeb how crurely had killed the son of Shri. Shivaji Maharaj, .i.e. Shri. Sambaji., he had killed him by intense toucher, first removed eyes, then cut off hands, the legs, then ears, then tounge, then head......
On the other hand when Auranjeb once was doing namaz, that time it his camp was attacked by shivaji people. They wanted to kill him. But!they let him go because hindus don\'t kill people in prayer.
These two incidents tell us truth and difference. Hindu by it self is secular. Islam is ..........
That is just like muslim quote says \'Saw chuhe kake billi, haj ko challi\'
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by ss gpal on Mar 01, 2007 03:01 PM Permalink
Local or from across the border or from the great desert land, doesnt make a bean of a difference.They are the same, which ever corner of the world you go to.You have seen one , you have seen them all.Its just that the stupid kafirs have now access to the qran like never before and the momeens are afraid that you know.They know qran and many ignorant momeens keep peddling the the same lie Islam means peace.Taqiya for you.The stupid kafirs had their heads buried in the sand! oops.The exposed part got royally dealt with.About time to wake up , smell coffee and read qran and not washington post
