I don't understand How can somebody be compelled to join a Religion. If and only if ??? the person is convinced then he accepts the other Religion. Stop Blaberring, let me tell you the reason for presence of Islam in India. 1) Sufism, the Mystical way of understanding the Almighty. 2) Caste system which prevailed in Hinduism is the main reason for people attracted towards Islam which is Egalatarian. 3) Giziya Tax for the Unbeleivers is based on the assumption that all the Muslims should give Zakaaat (Charity for Poor)which is the Fourth Basic Pillar of Islam.. Suppose if all the Muslims in India are compelled to accept Hinduism then what will happen ??? People will hate Hinduism and will not accept it at any cost. Same condition applies for all the Religions?? You can never win the Heart of a Man by Compulsion
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by ashwani roy on Feb 18, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
Wah.Very cleverly excused the Gejiya & islam. DIL Ke Behlaney Ko Shiekh Yeh Khyal Achha Hai.Ibrahim Sheikh kindly read Anwar Shiekh a grete Pakistani scholar on Islam & its history.PBUH.HE died in england 90 yrs old leaving many books exposing quranic and islamic faces in different form...........John Sudhaker
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by zena on Feb 19, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
Re: Ironic. Mohd Nawaz,
Jesus was never a muslim. Stop telling lies. Jesus was born 600 years before yr Mohd. The Quran is a cheap mish-mash plagarism of the Torah and New Testament infused with Arab folklore. Read "Origins of the Quran " by Ibn Warraq. It's available on www.islam-watch.org or com.
The traditions and terminology of Islam are all Vedic, Sanskrit. 1370 years ago there was no Islam. Take the term Islam itself. That is the Sanskrit term "Ishalayam" meaning the Temple of God viz. The Kaaba which housed 360 icons of Vedic deities. Mohammad was born in 570 A.D. He proclaimed Islam in 622 A.D and died in 632 A.D. That is to say out of a span of 62 years, Mohammad himself was a muslim for the last 10 years. For the earlier 52 years he was a pagan. His parents were pagans. There are no muslim names. If youdo have one pls contct Syed Kamra Mirza at www.faithfreedom.org He has challenged muslims to give muslim names.
Mohd destroyed all 360 idols, but even he could not summon the courage to completely obliterate the Shivling in the Kaaba. He entered the temple and kissed the black stone. The Shivling was so sacred that the man who so detested idol- worship ended up kissing the largest idol in the Kaaba. Later his followers in a fit of piety broke the Shivling and then out of remorse repatched it together again. Today it lies broken at seven places and held together by a silver band studded with silver nails, bearing the name "Sangey Aswad" which came from the Sanskrit Ashwet meaning non-white or black stone. He jumbled up the Sanskrit words Nama and Yaja (which meant "bowing and worshipping" respectively) into a combination word Namaz and used that to describe his prescribed method of prayer. Because the Vedic custom was to pray facing the East, in his hatred for all things Hindu, he directed his followers to pray facing only the west. The method of circling around a shrine seven times in a clockwise direction is an ancient Vedic custom. Mohd with his lack of originality decided that the 7 ritual perambulations should be retained but again in his hatred of all things Vedic decided the direction of the perambulations should be anti-clockwise. With his phobia of all things Vedic, Mohd knew that the greatest reminder and threat to his forced brand of religion were the beautiful Vedic idols of Arabic temples. Thus he destroyed every idol he could find and made idol worship the greatest crime for a Muslim. Such a man could never have comprehended how an abstract concept can be conveyed through a symbolic representation in the form of an image. Thus he made all image representation a sin as well. Vedic religion is known for its ancient oral tradition. It is well known that the Vedic culture emphasized oral debate and expression far more than the written word. In adition the oral recitation of Vedic scriptures was always done in a lyrical fashion, utilizing music and thus reaching a height of expression. In fear of this musical tradition Mohd decided to forbid Music.
Mohd's uncle was one of the resident priests of the Shiv temple known as "Kaaba". This sacred sanctum was decorated in an extremely rich and beautiful fashion. The Kaaba was astronomically oriented to face the winds. The minor axis of the rectangular base of the Kaaba was solistically aligned towards summer sunrise and winter sunset. It contained 360 statues of Vedic deities and was a shrine primarily associated with sun worship. The temple was an architectural representation of an interlocking set of theories covering virtually all creation and comprehending chemistry, physics, cosmology, meteorology and medicine. Each wall or corner of the Kaaba was associated with a specific region of the world. Thus this glorious Hindu temple was made to symbolically represent a microcosm of the universe. The Arabs would face east when praying. This representation of a microcosm demonstrated by the eight directional structure was derived from the Tantric pattern of Hinduism. Right at the centre of the Kaaba was the octogonal pedestal of Bramha the creator. Today this very pedestal is called Maqam-E-Ibrahim by the Muslims.
the Kaaba was an extremely rich and ornate temple. On its walls hung innumerable gold plaques commemorating the winners of the annual poetry competition known as the Okaj fair. There were gold, silver and precious gems everywhere. It is no wonder that Muhammad armed with his facade of a new brand of religion set out to capture the immense wealth of the Vedic shrine of Mecca. After plundering the riches of The Kaaba, the wealth enabled him to systematically destroy all traces of the religion that threatened him so directly. It is an indisputable fact that money will make any low criminal devoutly religious in a hurry.
Jesus never performed namaz. Jesus is the Son of God. You can view the original bible which is some 2.500 years old in the British Museum in London. You can also view bits and pieces of your quran written on stones (China had already invented paper by then and Egyptians were using papyrus) in the same museum. Oh, the whole mish mash was assembled some 200 years after Mohd's death.
Shame on you. Go and do some proper reading and research. Oh, I am not a Christian, so don't get rabid!
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by Hindu bharath on Feb 20, 2007 05:14 AM Permalink
Great research Zena....hope this opens the eyes of the followers of Muhammed..can i use this article from here on?
