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Hindus as slaves in Arab land
by Perv Sharma on Mar 01, 2007 08:08 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Then what are rich muslims doing in western countries which each and every muslim hates from within. What are pakistani doing in every western country. In Fact living as refugees and eating free. Well! Greed has no end as written in hindu scriptures. Atleast these hindus are working to get the money.

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  RE:Hindus as slaves in Arab land
by In on Mar 01, 2007 02:14 PM   Permalink
Good Lalach buri bala hai..
Its in Islamic scripture also..
Also there are so many things for not killing of innocents also..

"Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Indeed God does not love transgressors (Koran 2:192-193)."

If the people you are fighting ask for peace, the Koran states that Muslims have an obligation to accept the peace and fight no more:

"..So if they hold aloof from you and wage not war against you and offer you peace. God allows you no way against them (KORAN 4:90)."

The Koran is very lenient even towards prisoners of war (i.e those who are fighting against you and get captured):

And if any of the idolaters seeks of you protection, grant him (her) protection

Islam in History
The west has generally nurtured and propagated the idea that Islam spread at the point of the sword.

This reasoning led to the prejudice of Islam and Terrorism taking root in western society throughout Europe and America because of the random acts of a few misled, ill informed, Koranically uneducated people who called themselves Muslims.

The Koran is explicit on the freedom of conscience:

"There is no compulsion in religion. Truth is clear from falsehood (KORAN 2:256)

"Let him (her) who will believe, and let him (her) who will disbelieve."
(KORAN 18:29).
"You are in no way a compellor over them; but warn by the Koran him who fears my threat
(KORAN 50:45)."

History gives a lie to the "fairy tale" that Islam spread by the sword:
1)Muslims ruled over Spain for 736 years. If the Muslims had used any force during those 736 years to convert the Christians to Islam there wouldn't have been a single Christian left to kick out the Muslims after 736 years of rule.
2)Over 100 million Muslims live in Indonesia, yet no Muslim army ever invaded any of its over 2000 islands. Same is the case with Malaysia, and the east coast of Africa.



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by Secular Indian on Mar 01, 2007 02:57 PM   Permalink
Since my previous quotes from the Koran posting was removed as abuse, just goes to show that even quoting the Koran is seen as abuse LOL.

Torment to Non-believers:
SURA 4.56: (As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire; so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins, that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.

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by In on Mar 01, 2007 04:03 PM   Permalink
This is after the Day of Judgement. Its about Jahannam/ Narak/ Hell. And I think all religion discuss about the Hell.

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by Secular Indian on Mar 01, 2007 04:49 PM   Permalink
Perhaps your english is a little weak I will post the bit again: " ... We shall make them enter fire; ... ", who do you think is the we ? It is not a discussion about hell it is asking it's followers to send non-believers to hell.

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by In on Mar 01, 2007 05:50 PM   Permalink
No dear In Arab literature, Allah in Quran addressed himself as "We". This may be because of Arabic Grammar and Allah words. Read complete paragraph also.. instead take a book from Masjid for understanding or ask or fellow muslim friend.

The statement is w.r.t. Hell/Narak only. I know this. Cool down and read it again.

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by Secular Indian on Mar 02, 2007 02:24 AM   Permalink
I did show it to an Arab native speaker and his comments are below:

"The 'we' refers to the the followers of Islam not to Allah himself".


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by In on Mar 01, 2007 04:00 PM   Permalink
Thats why some people wrote u earlier on this page, take authentic and corrrect informmation and if possible take complete paragraph. Is this language diificult for u to understand.
Eg. Muslims dont write anything bad, incorrect, incomplete and mark it as from any other religion Holy Book.

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by In on Mar 01, 2007 04:56 PM   Permalink
Don't copy what someone else had claims from any source, it can be false claims also; i think u know the authenthic web sites also as written by any one on this page... open ur eyes 'n ears, read full paragraph and then make ur own claims..

Copy paste is true in case of soft-programming, but in reality u should be honest/ and should have the capability of fair judgememnt.

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by Nawaz Haindaday on Mar 01, 2007 12:09 PM   Permalink
Mr. Sharma

If you have the guts to talk nonsense about our Prophet face to face, in person, I invite you to have lunch with me in Mumbai. I am sure, you will go away with a much better image of the real Islam, rather than commenting on the religion based on wrong facts. George Bernard Shaw had said, Islam is the best religion, but Muslims are the worst followers. Unfortunately, that is true to some extent. I await your reply.

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by Perv Sharma on Mar 01, 2007 07:41 PM   Permalink
Mr Nawaz
Can U please clarify which facts are wrong

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by on Mar 01, 2007 12:41 PM   Permalink
tyyi

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by Perv Sharma on Mar 01, 2007 07:38 PM   Permalink
Mr Nawaz

Then you must have also read Dr Ambedkar.

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