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by Perv Sharma on Mar 11, 2007 02:22 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

During Aurangzeb's reign explain the following



Death of Shivaji's son ?



Death of Sikh Gurus?



only these two because these two explain all.



Regarding Aurangzeb being a true Islamic follower - compare which religion is true to human kind if you consider Aurangzeb a true islamic follower by this example .



The tortured death given to Shivaji's Son whereas the Maratha soldiers on entering Aurangzeb's tent found him praying and therefore decided against killing him at that moment but to show him how near to him they had come they took away his Emperor's Diamond from the top of the Tent.



Hindus have shown similar cases for Mohammed Ghouri 1000 years ago when a defeated Ghouri was allowed to go back.



History was repeated in 1971 when Hindu Army again treated the enemy Islamic forces of Pakistan with dignity and allowed them to return. The surrender is till today the most number of POWs in a war.



Just compare how the hindus treated those islamic soldiers killed in Kargil and how the hindu POWS were treated by these Islamic followers.



A religion is great only if it teaches you basic hunman values which unfortunately Islam lacks.

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  RE:Mullah followers
by amjadhussain on Mar 11, 2007 04:21 PM   Permalink
Aurangzeb



Aurangzeb was the greatest king among the Mughals and ruled over the largest territory of any ruler in Indian history. His empire extended from Kabul in present Afghanistan to areas in South India bordering Madurai in present Tamil Nadu State. He was a kind-hearted man and led a simple life. He was a just ruler and forgave his enemies. He abolished all non-Islamic practices at his court; abolished Ilahi calendar introduced by Akbar and reinstated Islamic lunar calendar. He enforced laws against gambling and drinking. He abolished taxes on commodities and inland transport duties. He forbade the practice of Emperor being weighed in gold and silver on birthdays. Aurangzeb did not draw salary from state treasury but earned his own living by selling caps he sewed and selling copies of the Quran he copied by hand.



Birth and Education



Mohyuddin Muhammad Aurangzeb was born on October 24, 1618 CE at Dohad in the Bombay Presidency. He was the third son of Shah Jahan and Mumtaz Mahal. Aurangzeb was nine years old when his father became Emperor of India. From that time on, his regular education began. He got good education in religion as well as the ordinary education of that time. He memorized the whole Quran and was taught to write in a beautiful handwriting. He also developed a taste for poetry and could make verses. He also learned the Arabic language.



Military Training



His military training began by age 16. When Aurangzeb was seventeen, he was made the Viceroy of Deccan. Aurangzeb worked well as the Viceroy of Deccan. This didn't still bring peace to his mind. He wanted a purpose of life. After some thought, he turned to the Quran as a light for his life.



Life as a Faqir



In May 1644 CE, he gave up his duties as the Viceroy of Deccan and left to live in the wild region of Western Ghats. Here he lived for several months as a Faqir (poor, simple man). He took up a life of prayer and self-disciplined life.



Anger of his Father



This action of Aurangzeb brought great anger to his father, the Emperor. He was so shocked that his son became a Faqir that he stopped all his allowances and took his estates. This didn't bother Aurangzeb at first. After some thought though, Aurangzeb decided to go back to his family. For some months, Aurangzeb lived in Agra with disgrace. His mother and sisters felt sorry for him but the Emperors displeasure was hard to go.



Regaining his Rank



In November 1644 CE, his sister, Jahan Ara, who was the eldest and best-loved daughter of the Emperor, got a terrible burn and when she recovered, the Emperor, who was so happy, could not refuse her anything. At her request, Aurangzeb was raised back to his rank. The prince was again the Viceroy of Deccan.



End of Lawlessness in Gujrat



In February 1645 CE, Aurangzeb was

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by Secular Indian on Mar 11, 2007 04:28 PM   Permalink
Aurangzeb was a religious bigot and actively promoted forced conversions of Hindus to Islam. By passing discriminatory laws based on the Shariat he created the conditions for his administrators to actively pursue his forced conversion agenda. He didn't go from house to house to convert people he didn't need to his job was to create the conditions within which he plan would be implemented, thats what rulers do.

e.g.,

From "The Mughal Empire", John F. Richards. Pg. 176

Zealous imperial officers had considerable power to enforce the new edicts, especially among the urban non-warrior groups. At Surat in 1669 the qazi terrorized the entire Bania or Hindu merchant community of that city. He pressured several members of the community to convert to Islam and threatened others with forcible conversions unless they paid ransom money. He extorted other sums to prevent defacement of the Hindu temples and shrines in the city. The qazi forcibly circumsized and converted a Bania serving as a Persian writer or clerk, who then killed himself.

Regarding Jizya ...

.. the Hindus crowded from the gate to the fort to the Jama Masjid in large numbers to for imploring redress ... [Aurangzeb], who was riding on an elephant, could not reach the mosque...Then he ordered the majestic elephants should proceed against them. Some of them [Hindus] were killed ... at last then submitted to pay the Jiziyah.

Aurangzeb's ultimate aim was conversion of non-Muslims to Islam. Whenever possible the emperor gave out robes of honor, cash gifts, and promotions to converts.
It quickly became known that conversions was a sure way to the empeor's favor.. In many disputed successions for hereditary local office Aurangzeb chose candidates who had converted to Islam over the rivals. Pragana headmen and qanungos or recordkeepers were targeted especially for pressure to convert.

Regarding Hindus serving for Mughal emperors especially Aurangzeb.
These were alliances of convenience (in fact Indians should take note what happens when they fight amongst themselves). Aurangzeb had made the titles hereditary and the Hindu Zamindars wanted to legitimise their rule. Tactically this was a smart move by Aurangzeb to get the Hindus rulers into his orbit by getting them onside and then sorting them out one by one, divide and rule. Jaswant Singh is a case in point, just after he died all temples in his kingdom were destroyed. Earlier the mansabdari system too was created to incorporate these "civilized" and settled centres of society, by Akbar, it was based on sem-meritocracy to enable non-muslims to rise to a position of some power. Aurangzeb simply used it as a divide and rule instrument.

From: "Mughal warfare: Indian Frontiers and Highroads to Empire 1500-1700"
by Jos J. L. Gommans. Page 40.

... even in the more settled reg

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by Mike Gandhi on Mar 11, 2007 04:37 PM   Permalink
Shivaji, Sikh guru gobindsing, dara shikoh etcs. were traiters and collaborators of enemy.In the american language they were enemy combatants. In Britsh point of view they were like Baghat sing, Ashwak Ullah Khan, Chandra Shekhar Azad and in the present situation of India they were like, Mabbool But, Afzal Guru, Dawood Ibrahim and Chota shakeel. That time they were anti national and enemies of Nation. Any ruler, Govt would have to do what Emporer Aurangzeb did. If you still dont understand and not accepting the truth then you are lost inteligence case and lost conscience.

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by Swapnil Mehta on Mar 11, 2007 06:52 PM   Permalink
Mike Gandhi, you just shut up ang get lost.Go to HELL.

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by Secular Indian on Mar 11, 2007 06:58 PM   Permalink
There is a difference between maintaining law and order and promoting a religious agenda. Aurangzeb's law and order problem was due to his religious agenda. Which was to convert Sikhs and Hindus to Islam.

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