Firstly, I am seeing that a lot of us educated brothers are arguing non-stop on issues in which we have no control. Let us see how our experience is first with any God and then decide. Let us not completely go by belief. But that said, I am sad that Muslims and Christians (who belong originally to this land but were converted) are turning against the Hindus. I am sure that Jesus or Mohammed would not have advocated doing injustice to one's own land and faith. Let us tolerate and respect all paths as leading to the same God. It is said that "Ekam Sath Vipra Bahuda Vadanthi" meaning "Truth is One, Wise men call it by different means". Let us not forget that God is very difficult to attain. We should restrain anger, lust and greed so say all the scriptures.
Praying that all of us live in peace and harmony and in mutual respect for each of our traditions and give each other enough space to practice our own beliefs in this sacred land of Bharath, where women are given the altar of the Gods and where the Mother is considered supreme.
RE:Let us use our experience and not our belief
by on Feb 26, 2007 02:19 AM Permalink
such wise thoughts would come only from an rational hindu and never from fanatic muslim. In many of the previous comments, they have called their critics narrow minded, but please note because muslims are namrrow minded and don't want to change they are behaving so conservative in all the ages. Pls guys the once who are open minded, kindly raise your voice against the fanatics and help this world to be more peacefull. We want to see the oppposition to this fanatic evil from the muslims themselves , who are more open,believe in peace , doesn't want to be victims of hatred from their own faith and other faiths.
When this happens in a big way, even other religion people would believe muslims can do something rational and are not fanatic most of the time.
RE:RE:Let us use our experience and not our belief
by Unsung Humanist on Feb 26, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
If I were to make a comment that the concept of liberalism, that you and the West so willingly adopt as your creations, had much to do with early Islamic scientific inquiry and thought, will you believe it. No, because you have already decided that it is hard for a Muslim to be rational. Come on, we live in a nation where the so-called muslim fanatic's role is quite apparently taken by the majority communalists.
RE:RE:RE:Let us use our experience and not our belief
by Secular Indian on Feb 27, 2007 08:39 AM Permalink
Early Islam scientific enquiry is another Myth. The supposed golden period of Islam rests on claims of greatness not as a result of any Islamic catalyst or some inherent openness of Islam, it came from the conquered people the Byzantinians and the Persians. The culture that fostered such learning existed before Islam arrived there. Islam did not create it. Islam played the role of a bee cross fertilizing the cultures of what was then the near East with the West of Europe. Islams "liberalism" can only be claimed in contrast to the state of Christian Europe. I've admittedly over-stated my case but that was in response to your claim of Islams mythical "liberalism". In the case of India you just have to read Al-Beruni or the letters to Qasim from the Caliph in Baghdad to get an idea of their barbarity. In fact I would go so far as to claim that Islam would not have been able to hold a candle to the liberal Indians (who in the NW of India were mainly Buddhists at that time) of the same period.
RE:RE:RE:Let us use our experience and not our belief
by Indu on Feb 28, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
please note my words 'not fanatic most of the time' it does not mean 'all the time'. Today, we all non muslims are asking our open, liberal , and peace loving muslim brothers n sisters to join us to put an end to this havoc or terror or fanatism for islam that has spread throught the world. Many innocent civilians are lost or impaired.My point is, irrespective of caste, religion, gender we all humans have great potential to change our world in small or big way, then why waste our precious time and energy in unconstructive behaviour. Everyone understands this, but not much is done about it. Please my muslims and non muslim friends if you guys really love peace and want we all n future gens to live for bettercause, we must protest against these so called jihadis or fanatics, Iam sure , people of our thoughts would definitely out number them.
It is also in a way a challenge or big task for open minded muslims to prove they are not supporting this fantisism madness and want peace and better living for themselves and others. It would not be an easy task , but definitely feseable with lot of patience and continous efforts.
Jai Bharath and ultimately leading to Jai peacefull World!!
