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How Can I Teach to this DT's ( Dog Tails )
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 25, 2007 12:48 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

1. Non-believers are called Dhimmis in Muslim States. The Non-Muslims have to pay levy, tax or Jizya.



2. The Non-Muslims Young Man who are eligible to pay not serving in the Army. The Old, Woman, children exempted.



3. This is not paid as bribe for practicing their faith, but rather as compensation for not serving in the Army.



4. The Muslim Government responsible for their protection by all means from crusading armies, tribal or communal warfare.



5. The special tax required of non-Muslim dhimmis under Islamic law, was actually less than zakat 2.5 percent.



6. All eligible Muslims have to pay zakat 2.5 percent.



7. All Muslims and Dhimmis have to pay Zakat on Farming 10 percent if the production is more than the Nisab(fixed amount decided by the Economist) or the person is eligible.



8. The Zakat is must for Muslims also some western writer miss-informed. Our First Caliph Abu Baker Siddiq R.A. Said if any body is not giving Zakat take by anyway if its war. So-called journalists scream that the Jizya is a tool of inequality, they fail to see that there is a tax levied on Muslims as well, the Zakat, which non-Muslims are not required to pay.









Note: Jizya is paid not to join or serve in the army. Jizya was collected from the eligible young man who did not want to join army. If join the army then there is no jizya and he will get all arms to protect his country. You DT's how can I teach you.

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  RE:How Can I Teach to this DT's ( Dog Tails )
by Yerra Burra on Mar 25, 2007 09:48 AM   Permalink
Stop repeating this nonsense. Jizya and Aurangazeb were horrible. Keep your faith to yourself. Don't try to muddy the truth with irrelevant blabberings. Don't keep saying people are ignorant. Why should people waste their time learning about some barbaric religion which had/has nothing to teach to the advanced civilization in India? Prove your love of peace by your behaviour not by blabbering about peace.

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  RE:How Can I Teach to this DT's ( Dog Tails )
by wada pav on Mar 26, 2007 12:24 AM   Permalink
1. you say non-muslims who don't want to serve the army have to pay jiziya, what about muslims who don't want to serve in the army,why was jiziya not imposed on them ?



2. Its not taken in lieu of zakat, its imposed on non-muslims toi humiliate and subjugate the as is clear from the sura below.



Sura 9:29

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stipulates that jizya be exacted from non-Muslims as a condition required for jihad to cease. Failure to pay the jizya could result in the pledge of protection of a dhimmi's life and property becoming void, with the dhimmi facing the alternatives of conversion, enslavement or death (or imprisonment, as advocated by Abu Yusuf, the chief qadi %u2014 religious judge %u2014 of Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid).



Ibn Kathir on Sura 9:29,



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writes that dhimmis must be:



disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of the dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they [dhimmis] are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated.[107]



Muhammad (Sahih Muslim 26:5389), Hasan al-Kafrawi, an 18th century scholar

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"if you [Muslims] encounter one of them [dhimmis] on the road, push him into the narrowest and tightest spot".[120]



Sahih Muslim

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Book 19, Number 4294 states that Muhammad commanded his military leaders to demand jizya from non-Muslims if they refused to accept Islam, and to fight them if they refused to pay.



Al-Muwatta

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Book 17, Number 17.24.46 states that Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz relieved those who converted to Islam from paying jizya. It also gives the sunnah on those who must pay jizya, principally non-Muslim males who have reached puberty, rather than zakat, as zakat is for the purpose of purifying Muslims, whereas jizya is for the purpose of humbling non-Muslims. It also outlines the additional jizya travelling traders must pay, and the rationale for that.



Al-Zamakhshari

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, a Mutazili author of one of the standard commentaries on the Quran,[21] said that "the Jizyah shall be taken from them with belittlement and humiliation. The dhimmi shall come in person, walking not riding. When he pays, he shall stand, while the tax collector sits. The collector shall seize him by the scruff of the neck, shake him, and say "Pay the Jizyah!" and when he pays it he shall be slapped on the nape of the neck."[21]



Al-Mawardi (the famous Shafii jurist of Baghdad)

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, stated in al-Ahkam as-Sultaniyyah (The Laws of Islamic Governance) that jizya is paid by the enemy in return for peace, a

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by Jallipalli Suresh on Mar 26, 2007 05:52 PM   Permalink
Then If India decides to ask Jizya to be paid by non-army muslims then are u ready to pay........

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by wada pav on Mar 26, 2007 08:42 PM   Permalink
Brilliant Suresh !

this shows their hypocracy and how they try to cover up past crimes.

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