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Aurangzeb is a peace lover...
by sarfaraz on Feb 16, 2007 04:33 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Mr. Francois,

I m sorry to say that your knowledge in history is very poor. This article is just your idea to be in limelight. There are many facts about Indian history which are still in dark, why you only choose these kind of topics to discuss. If you are a true history lover then choose a topic from some of the below mentioned topics.
1) There are only few names of Muslim in Indian Freedom history, do u really think there are only five to ten Muslims who took part in Indian freedom?.

2) Do you know that Aurangzeb was almost the only emperor who used to run his family by making caps & writing Quraan by his own hands.
He always use public money for public only.

3) Islam is the only religion which is not spread by sword or any war.
If you are true history lover this is a challenge to you, just name that wars which converts many people in the world in just 1400 years of time to become a very big religion on this earth.

Don't compare some Muslim names to whole community or religion. People could be wrong but religion never. The Shariat was not made for that era only , these are the rules for the benefit of human being on this earth for everlasting.

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by Cyber hinwa on Feb 16, 2007 05:03 PM   Permalink
Dear SARFARAZ ,

Pity yourself as your knowledge of ISLAM IS very poor , and history almost nil . India suffered terrible distortion, disgrace and devastation from these booty-hunters whose followers, even today, treat Bharat as Dar-ul-Harb (the battlefield), and are determined to convert it into an Islamic state through malice, mischief and molestation.

The false prophet Muhammad suffered from malignant narcissistic personality disorder. His followers, to the degree that they emulate him, think like him and try to behave like him, have entered into his narcissistic bubble universe and have become narcissists by extension. This happens to all cultists. In all cults, the insanity of the guru reflects on the followers who surrender their intelligence to him and follow him unquestioningly and brainlessly.
A muslim whose ancestors was terrorised and slaughtered then they were ultimately forced to become Muslim has written a book were he critically analyses the terror handbook "QURAN".
No other religion can match the ferocity and the violence which is advocated in this book , Violence against Jews , Christians
and any other religions is explained in detailed . It is a monstorous
creation of a perverted mind .

Major parts are mentioned for all those to see and understand the facade behind the religion of peace [ uuugggggghh] .I have digitised
the book and i have uploaded to the link wherein you can download if you are not afraid of being labelled Apostate !!!!

http://rapidshare.com/files/16716007/The_Islamic_Jehad.pdf.html

I particularly recommend the reading of verses to verses explanation which no muslim will deny it is not written .

Comments and responses awaited at cyberhinwa@gmail.com ,

CYBERHINWA

Question for all Muslims : If ISSLAM is about peace why do Muslims justify to other religions that ISSLAM is religion of peace instead of telling their own Muslims and stop KILLING innocents ????????



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by BALSWAROOP AWASTHI on Feb 16, 2007 05:17 PM   Permalink
Hi Sarfaraz,

I am sory but rather your knowledge in history is very poor. Francois Gautiere is famous worldwide, and does not need lime or lemon lights. The answers:
1. There is no dirth of names in Indian Freedom Movement who were Muslims. Do you really think we should include Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Allama Iqbal also in that list, it may be a little problematic for people like you who ask forcefully for their rights but sulk on the topics of duties?
2. Many know the fact of Aurangzeb stitching caps and writing Qur'ans to earn his living. But all of them also know that he killed his brother Dara Shikoh just because of his greater popularity and Sufi inclination. He only used Islam to justify his fanaticism, isnt it so that according to Shariah Law he should have been executed by sword for killing his brother. Now make up another story my friend.
3. There is no need for the challenge, you just need to look in your own household to find the war that converted many people to become a very big religion in 1400 years or do you really believe that all 12-22% muslims in India came walking behind Babar or Ghaznis and Ghoris. It may be a bitter truth you would never accept, but if you are an Indian muslim, more than 90% chances are that your ancestors lost that war to become muslims.

Islam in its pure form is definitely not bad, in fact it has som features which are brilliant in terms of social justice. But the principles of this religion has been twisted and altered for selfish reasons. And unfortunately the culprits are not original muslim or predominantly Islamic areas. It is the subcontinent convert population largely, in their zeal to prove themselves as the sole carriers of the faith. Look from Europe to Asia for cases of Islamic terrorism and you will find the origins and links in the Subcontinent Islam.

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by Prakashan Valappil on Feb 16, 2007 05:14 PM   Permalink
I fully agree with Mr.Sarfaraz. All the religious leadears who has established certain religions has set rules of humanisam. No relitions leaders set any rules to hate other religious people or kill them. So no religion is wrong. People who wrongly interpret are wrong. In India it is a political game to get votes and the poor people are killed in the name of relition. Can you name any political leaders killed in the communal riots. Let our new generation understand it.

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by Raj Narayan on Feb 16, 2007 04:40 PM   Permalink
How silly, I think you have no clue on who
Francois Gautier is.

You are not able to tolerate the facts and thats why you are throwing challenges..

Read the history and then reality will hit you hard....

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by ded de on Feb 16, 2007 04:39 PM   Permalink
thats the point. aurangzeb was a devout muslim so a devout killer terrorist etc.

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by Raj Narayan on Feb 16, 2007 04:41 PM   Permalink
hahaha... good one

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by vinod Nadar on Feb 16, 2007 04:55 PM   Permalink
Its true that Aurangazeb used to make (and sell) caps to sustain his family. In fact his burial ground is a example of his earnings & simplicity. But how come mr Sarfaraz this approach of life makes him peace lovers?
Its people like us who manipulate history as per our taste. Please lets not talk of Islam or Muslims. It's just plain Aurangazeb. This Indian is worth appreciating for extending the Mughal empire by more than 50% what his father left behind. In fact he was at the warfront all his last years...

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by rajesh radhakrishnan menon on Feb 16, 2007 05:11 PM   Permalink
mr.sarfaraz,
i can understand ur feeling.but this feeling comes only when it is talked in muslim context.
you are talking about freedom struggle.yes contribution of muslim community is commendable,but what is the percentage?generally speaking muslims as has been seen priority is given only to religion.if a hindu girl marries a muslim then is converted to muslim and same with the hindu boy.but when a muslim girl marries a hindu then such a there is such afurore about that.even if she gets converted to hinduism her parents and community put so much pressure on her to reconvert back and even bring the boy to the fold.
ttalking about aurengzeb or even other muslim rulers the main objective was to spread the religion.
the muslim are never ready to except this fact.only sufiusm was a peaceful sect in muslim community and they are much hated by the mainstream muslims.

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by on Feb 16, 2007 05:20 PM   Permalink
Questions to you Sarfaraz

1)Who killed Sikh Guru Tegh Bahadur and Why?
2)Who Bombed Grand mask of Karbala in Iraq, killing scores of people?
3)Why bombings are carried out in areas were majority community were Shias in Bagdad
4)Why killings after Friday prayers in Karachi?
5)Why War between two muslim countries Iran and Iraq?
6)Why Shariat in JK after so many years?
7)Why did Pandits run away from JK?
8)Why rape in Darfur rawanda?

All points to one thing, Even though Prophet never appointed any custodian of Islam except Quran, Why these killing take place. That too between same pleople who perform Hajj together?

We can try set our own house in order. Muslims are sterotyped my media and clerics. We can not ask questions?? Even if they help us to introspect and correct. If muslims do that, then you are anti Islam. Are we trying to say that Aurangzeb's does not exists? Are they true Muslims? Like any other religons so called followers can make mistakes... If mistake is done, we need to accept , reconcile and move forward. This is shown many times by Prophet him self.

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