I really feel very sorry for rediffmail to allow such a hatred and biased type of article to be written on your webside.
Please try to avoid such things in future so that hatred will not spread among different communities living harmoniousely in Indian subcontinent. Otherwise people will start considering you as a biased webside.
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by Secular Indian on Feb 26, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
Are you suggesting they should tell lies, because a particular community doesn't have the stomach to face the facts ?
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by on Feb 26, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
A particular community doesnt have the stomach to face the facts. Huh, that sounds so preachy! Gautier's article is the "fact" and volumes of historical books written by scholars with perspective and years of research are dismissed as leftist trash. Now, calling a spade a spade is supposed to be the fashion; and when riots break out on the streets, desktop analysts like you feel safe. How convenient!
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by Secular Indian on Feb 27, 2007 05:48 AM Permalink
So what do consider a fact, opinions of historians or Aurangzeb's own court records, I would suggest you read the records and make up your own mind. It's easier that way ? I don't deny that it's little bit uncomfortable stirring the pot but your claim that it will lead to strife, by whom ?
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by Unsung Humanist on Feb 27, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
I wish you had gone through records of all those post-independence riots and face the facts. If the potential for strife in repeated nostalgic digging of the past doesn't seem apparent to you, try reading the newspapers for a start. Consider India's sociological reality, its poverty stricken masses so vulnerable to hearsay and half-baked, half-researched works which could just be another trigger in waiting. This is no desktop conjecture, but earned from watching ground reality in riot-prone areas for over a decade.
It might be comforting to win an argument based on court records culled out selectively to justify a 1000 word article. Now, I would give more credence to a seasoned historian with years of research than the views of a columnist tailormade for a blogwar!
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by Secular Indian on Feb 27, 2007 02:17 PM Permalink
Selective court records or not, how is that relevant to the destruction of temples and killing and conversion of Hindus. All you are suggesting is that by keeping quiet we can delay the inevitable. With Bangladesh radicalized along with Pakistan the looming clash is unfortunately going to be framed in Hindu vs Muslim. Otherwise we wouldn't have Pakistan or Bangladesh in the first place. You want to live in your fantasy world fine by me.
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by Unsung Humanist on Feb 27, 2007 05:22 PM Permalink
I can't get your argument. Could you be more simplistic in suggestion a solution to avoid India going the Pakistan Bangladesh way. Don't you see the difference between a purely Islamic state like Pakistan and a democracy like India.
The inevitable: whats that, I fail to understand. You seem to imply that Muslims are still killing Hindus, converting them, destroying temples. Aren't you satisfied with the role reversal of the last 50 years of independence. The inevitable, provided scare-mongers are consistent in whipping up dead horses, is scenarios of more Gujarats. I am not accustomed to living in fantasies, I live in the real world with real problems. You can continue to feed your anti-Islamic appetite with liberal dosage of Aurangazeb and Tipu.
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by Secular Indian on Feb 28, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
First the inevitable. Islam has had only one aim since it landed on our shores in the form of bin Qasim. The arrival of Islam, last 1000 or so years have brought nothing but misery and death to this country with the aim of destroying this once great civilization (I think it's still great but that's a different matter). All in the name of Islam and it's teaching of "you are with us or against us". It has not stopped. Pakistan and Bangladesh were carved out not for any other reason but that they were Muslims. They have not stopped their activities till date. They want nothing more than to convert the rest of India to Islam, this is why history is important. This struggle against Islam and the inevitable are framed in civilizational terms not some divine pre-ordained prophecy.
Muslims are still killing Hindus in Kashmir, their forced conversions have stopped in India, you must remember they don't rule India anymore. Where they do rule Pakistan and Bangladesh, they carried on after partition and are still doing it today. I can post links to Pakistan Newspapers for your perusal, because of course, Indian newspapers are not trustworthy they are owned by Hindus.
Role reversal, are you blind to what the Muslims have done to the Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. They are modern day examples of what happens to non-muslimss in Muslim countries, the same thing that happened to Hindus under Aurangzeb and Tipu Sultan. That is what history teaches us. It doesn't take much effort to draw the conclusion that where muslims are in majority and power they will do exactly what they did to us in the past.
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by biju nair on Feb 28, 2007 02:10 AM Permalink
Hi Syed Zakir Husain,
This is not hatred. It is open discussion. Infact your religious books are spreading hatred in Islamic Minds against non-believers(Kaffirs). Can you show any other religious books hating other religions or beleifs?
