Well as hailing from North Kerala i know much about Simi. When we go to school they call us (Hindus) Kafirs. During the 90s there were the incidents of burning of cinema theaters because it is against Islam. They were posters ."Hindustan Kabristan, Pakistan Gulistan' these were posted by SIMI and ISS. In my opinion fault is in our part because WE (HINDUS) ARE DIVIDED AND WE ARE PREACHERS OF SO CALLED (F***) SECULARISM. wE NEED LEADERS LIKE Tiger pRABHAKARAN but we have only paper tigers like .....you know better
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by rajesh on Feb 15, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
hey you are indirectly mentioning the Gujrat problem. Whatever happend in gujrat is because of Godhra. It is a COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT. I think you got the point. We are not COWS we can too make to ........got the point
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by Renuka Sharma on Feb 15, 2007 10:06 PM Permalink
And what will you say when SIMI or others justify their acts in similar manner by calling their acts Collective Punishment!!! Think Again... Dont forget that its we Hindus who started it all way back in 1990 by pulling down the mosque.. which benefitted us in no ways... But yes lakhs of people were homeless and thousands killed - both Hindus and Muslims.... Dont you think that We Hindus have been responsible for the killing of not muslims buit atleast the Hindus... And Godhra is not separate - its part of the Ayodhya Scandal.. Why do we people bring back the bygones, in the name of Shila daan, trishul daan etc... The godhra contained Kar sevaks.... The same Kar Sevaks who collected from all over the country during the Ayodhya episode.. they were over a lakh kar sevaks, on road, on dec 6, who pulled down the mosque and killed thousand of muslims on their way....... If you justify this, where do you justify the raping of women - No one spared not even old women, neither childred......... You justify that tooooo!! If Islam is what they preach, then set an example........ we are also not what Hinduism preached........
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by chaitanya kumar on Feb 15, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
The thing about "Secularism" in Malyasia, Indonesia and Turkey is that, they are becoming fundamentalist now. In Malaysia people are asked to wear full Burqas by some sections. It was a peaceful nation before. Vociferous support is gaining ground there for Mr. Alqaeda and the King Laden. Turkey is rearing it's head too. About smaller states like UAE, Bahrain etc, they are very small in size and filled with non-arabs and non-muslims of all hues and colours. Get them out of there and you will the "secularism" of those lands.
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by Nadeem Khan on Feb 15, 2007 09:55 PM Permalink
so by calling it collective punishment you just justified killing of innocent people. I don't justify killing of people in kashmir or in 9/11. All human life is sacred. But according to you, COLLECTIVE punishment is justified. You are no different than any extremist out there who has no value for life.
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by chaitanya kumar on Feb 15, 2007 08:50 PM Permalink
well, NO Muslim nation follows "secularism" and you guys love those nations. How do you explain it? India is much better.
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by syed nazar on Feb 15, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
Chaitanya 2 need 2 get ur facts right....UAE, Maylasia etc r muslim countries who r prime example of secularism. For ur info there has never been riots in these countries on basis of religion despite significant population being non muslims. Make a judgment for ur self regarding our home country.
There is a reason for whatz happening now and can b reasolved only by us n not by comparing other countries
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by ravi sinha on Feb 15, 2007 10:19 PM Permalink
Renuka, Oil rich countries have enuf wealth, but did u ever thought from where oil came..its not produced by them..its natural something they got as gift...and all those company listed they r not natural..they r created by Hindu leaders...what was the state of Baharin before 1940...a penny less state...before they found oil to be rich...so its no hardwork..take pakistan for ex...how many company in pakistan u can name of the status of likes of tata,birla?
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by on Feb 15, 2007 08:33 PM Permalink
The person who told u kafir is not a muslim, because the holy prophet prohibited anyone telling others a kafir. and a kafir means a muslim not practising religion. And I a am deeply pained as to what has hurt u. ALI
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by chaitanya kumar on Feb 15, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
holy prophets tell many things. But the question is, what is the state of Islam today? why are people blowing themselves in the name of Jehad? why aren't others doing it? did their holy prophets say something different?
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by Renuka Sharma on Feb 15, 2007 09:49 PM Permalink
Dont tell me that there are no no hindus in these companies.... Think again.. America and Europe are fairing well as a country not as individuals and they are Christians... Malaysia is of Muslims... and the oil rich nations are all islamic countries... Dont be biased by saying that only Hindus can perform and no one else can... Thats not proper... Out of the 100 crore in India... How many Hindus are atleast above the poverty line..... Think again....