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Killing politicians is really a sin?
by Ajay Mishra on Feb 04, 2007 07:14 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

If Afzal did not have attacked the parliament, I would have never supported his hanging. As the parliament is a symbol of soveriegnity and national pride, Afzal did in fact commit a gruesome crime by striking it.

But his purpose was something pure, he wanted to kill a few politicians. What a noble thought!! He was working for all the Indian populace. After all, we all want to get rid of these mindless policy makers who have risen to power either by exploiting our religious setiments (hindu Vs muslim) or by doing something equally divisive such as reservations to Dalits and OBCs. These politicians directly or indirectly cause more deaths than these militants combined. A single riot takes people in thousands. Maoist s kill more people than these militants.

Politicians have divided our society in so many pieces that we can't unite ourselves to throw them out of the corridors of power. Here, Afzal comes into picture, He was doing what we can not do ourselves. In this way, he was doing our work, boss!

But as I said, he did commit a crime by attacking the parliament, its bricks and its floors. It caused lives of guards. Had he not done these things, he would have my support. But in this circumstances, I would say he must be hanged..

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by Observer Observer on Feb 04, 2007 08:26 AM   Permalink
How do you know he did it , get into the legal aspect of the problem , he was tortured relentlessly by the STF to confess he did not get a lawyer to represent him, no fair trial and you have already assumed he did whatever Thackeray says...

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by Ahmed Shah on Feb 04, 2007 11:43 AM   Permalink
you talk as if you were there when he was supposedly being tortured u wahabi thug it is you wahabis who are root cause of terrorism and of islam being given bad name . you people must be hunted down and eradicated by all true muslims and if possible by good hindus too

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by Observer Observer on Feb 04, 2007 12:29 PM   Permalink
you talk as if you saw him plotting and attacking what a remorseless chant for hanging someone to justify the collective Hindutva ego.This shaky case and overwhelming support for humanity and for Afzal only makes this a case of humanity thrusted upon us by the Hindutvadis like you.

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by Amjed Sheikh on Feb 04, 2007 02:54 PM   Permalink
Dear Observer bhai,
True fake encounters happened in kashmir but they happen in almost all parts of India. They donot happen because the system is anti kashmiri but because the system is corrupt.
Having said that we must also accept that this system is better than what our neighabours have:
Here guilty policeman or any other are being investigated whereas in pakistan -- their president (musharaff) was shielding army officer who raped Dr. Shazia. No one in even investigating the killing of thousands of baloch or shia people.
Fake encounter happen in punjab, up, bihar, etc. There is not one state where fake encounters do not take place.
So fake encounters cannot be a reason to be antiIndia. It can be a reason to be anti system. The method to improve the system is democracy and guns have no place.

Now regarding Afzal guru. I agree he didnot have a lawyer in lower court, but HE HAD A LAWYER IN HIGH (not of his own choice) AND SUPREME COURT (of his own choice).
Now consider this:
1. Calls were made from his phone to the phone carried by on of the terrorists who attacked parliament which was recovered after they were killed.
2. THe car used was purchased by him only few days before the incident (Car was registered in his name).
3. Supreme court acquited all the rest of accused.

Afzal is not innocent. The question is whether he should be hanged, well I guess this is for the courts to decide. THe case falls in rare of the rarest category as parliament is sacred temple of democracy (Even though it shelters criminals).
So afzal should be killed.
Now the delay is because of home minister and UPA government and HH APJ Kalam has no role to play so people like thackrey should speak against congress and UPA and not HH APJ Kalam. We must ignore people who speak against HH APJ Kalam.

a passing thought: Look around you and if anyone can find a better person, a more capable person in entire world politics than our HH APJ Kalam i shall give 10,000 rs. But you will have to prove that.




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by Morris Modi on Feb 04, 2007 02:42 PM   Permalink
Stop the BS guys. Do something good for your country instead of just picking up on others. You all are just losers who can't say anything in person but use the blogs to spread your hatred.
May the true noble people win and the jealous hatred animals die soon.

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by Ajay Mishra on Feb 04, 2007 08:48 AM   Permalink
Thackeray is yet another politcians. He might have great position in the eyes of Marathis, for me he is as corrupt as anyone else if not greater. And I don't base my assessment on his words.

But as SC has convicted Afzal, it leaves no doubt in my mind that this guy did it all. Also, He should be hanged for sure. But Hang a few politicians as well.

Why the hell someone would support a militant unless you are also aspiring to become politicians or have such ambitions?



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by Observer Observer on Feb 04, 2007 09:11 AM   Permalink
The Indian freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh and Ashfaq Ullah Kha were called terrorists by the British, and its a very well established fact that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, so much so that BBC has dropped it from its vocaublary.

Coming back to Afzal's case I think you need to further dwell into the fact further if you havent done so yet, they was an attack on parliament, but if Afzal was involved or made to confess is what needs to clairified.As far convicting him is concerned he was not allowed to choose the lawyers.

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by Ajay Mishra on Feb 04, 2007 10:02 AM   Permalink
And you know the facts!! little surprising,, how do you know the inside story??

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by Ahmed Shah on Feb 04, 2007 11:46 AM   Permalink
the killings of shias in pakistan are also carried out by indian army i think and also the daily bombings in iraq . the crisis in sudan is also because of indian army and so is that in somalia. i laugh at you o wahabi terrorist after watching you trying to spread your false propoganda and divide hindus and muslims of this great nation

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by Observer Observer on Feb 04, 2007 11:25 AM   Permalink
hOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE FAKE ENCOUNTERS IN KASHMIR WERE INFACT COLD BLOODED MURDERS BY THE INDIAN ARMY , YOU KNO WTHAT EVERY OTHER INNOCENT KILLED IN KASHMIR IS THE VICTIM OF MURDER AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE BY THE INDIAN ARMY, BUT YOUR CONSCIENCE WONT LET YOU ADMIT THAT.

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