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by on Dec 31, 2007 07:47 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Indian state is once again trying to label Sikhs are terrorists.

Sikhs will no longer tolerate the tactics used during the 1980/90's to undermine the Sikhs.

That time also Sikhs are made to feel as second rate citizens,false arrests were made,later false encounters .Sikhs were made to look suspicious in the eyes of other Indians,anti Sikh groups were given a free hand (that time it was the Nirankaris,this time Sirsa dera).

That time there was only 1 TV :DD and it was misused a lot to discredit the Sikh movement.Sikhs have not forgotten that.Now the so called unbiased Indian tv channels are working as govt mouthpieces.

Please stop this immediately.

When some channel can conduct a sting operation to expose the Gujarat genocide then why cant a sting operation be mounted to check the truth behind the recent arrest of Sikhs ?

"Knights of falsehood" in the form of Punjab police are active again.

As regards IB's warning the IB already stands discredited in many cases including Sirsa dera issue,Nithari killings issue etc.

If you wish to still believe it then it's your wish.

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  RE:Singh
by Jitendra Kumar on Dec 31, 2007 08:00 PM   Permalink
This happens when some misguided people from particuler community get involve in terrorist activity and whole community come under scanner . It is upto commmunity leader & all the parents to stop this nonsense.Who is stopping you to carry out sting operation. If you feel that they are innocent go to punjab highcourt. You need to understand difference between CBI & IB

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  RE:Singh
by on Dec 31, 2007 08:30 PM   Permalink
Jitendra Kumar,you wrote "This happens when some misguided people from particuler community get involve in terrorist activity and whole community come under scanner "

I dont agree with this.

Why haven't the people who killed Muslims in Gujrat genocide and those involved in Sikh genocide in 1984 called "Hindu terrorists" either by the govt,IB or the media ?

Why is hanging and capital punishment only for Muslims and Sikhs and not for Hindus ?

Who is discriminating against whom ?

The true face of hindutva became evident when modi recently said in his statement in Delhi after Benazir Bhutto's death said that now "Jiye Sindh" movement will gain ground in Sindh Pakistan .

Now who is the disintegrator ?

Does not this indirectly show that RAW or IB are indirectly involved in Sindh ?

If you say No, then how can IB say ISI is involved in Punjab ?



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  RE:Singh
by Jitendra Kumar on Dec 31, 2007 09:22 PM   Permalink
Why are you worry about pakistan ? Why do you bother if pakistan gets disintegrated ? Do you think Modi is so capable person who can play important role in pakistan politics ? In the last who are YOU ??????

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by on Dec 31, 2007 11:36 PM   Permalink
for IMPARTIAL :

I feel you seem to be in a drunken state as you are not able to understand what Im saying and considering the issues raised by me silly and baseless.
If you consider rapes and murders as that happened in 1984 and 2002 silly and baseless then you are really drunk .But if I say had this happened to you and the perpetrators are let go free then you will come to your senses at once.
Moreover it's end of the year so it's not your fault if you've been drinking .

As regards me I never drink .

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by IMPARTIAL on Jan 01, 2008 05:45 AM   Permalink


HAPPY NEW YEAR-2008 TO ALL READERS AND WRITERS.

I would welcome this Sikh gentleman from Punjab to come in with contribution of Bhinderanwala.

Please come in, do not report for abuse.

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by IMPARTIAL on Jan 01, 2008 05:01 AM   Permalink


HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 TO ALL.

I would like this Sikh gentleman from Punjab to come in and reply my question above(Bhindranwala's contribution)

Please come in.

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by IMPARTIAL on Jan 01, 2008 05:51 AM   Permalink
Happy new year to you Mahajan,
He is not Paki/muslim.He is Sikh gentleman from Punjab who has unfortunately seen only one side of coin.He needs to see other side also.

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by Mahajan Tarun on Jan 01, 2008 05:41 AM   Permalink
Mr. on Please get some life. HINDUS, MUSLIMS, SIKHS - all Indians please do not listen to this guy. I have been following him for some time now in these posts and I can see that under this false name "on" this person always speaks against India in whatever matter. I have always seen this - he will cleverly try to hide his identity saying he is not a pakistani and trying to give unbiased views but always he tries to point out the wrong with Hindus or India. Even if he is an Indian its even worse as all he is doing is trying to disintegrate. Please read any of his posts and you will know. Earlier he was writing for muslims and now for sikhs. He is just trying to flame the emotions. Please be careful. I have requested him a few times to stop this but he is still on. God anyway will punish him. Mr. on, if u think killing in the name of Allah or speaking bad for other religions in the name of Allah is good than you are in great loss my dear. Its allah who wil punish you for this.


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by IMPARTIAL on Jan 01, 2008 12:19 AM   Permalink
We are in 2008 now.It is beyond doubt that you are educated person.

Neither of us like to drink.

Can you please list out the contributions made by Bhinderanwala to Punjab and Punjabis in general and Sikhs and Sikhism in particular ?

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  RE:Singh
by IMPARTIAL on Jan 01, 2008 12:00 AM   Permalink
Happy new year to all.

Sat Sri Akal.

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by deepak on Jan 01, 2008 04:13 AM   Permalink
Why dont you get mad at Congress when the riots happened? maybe this was the way to divide Hindus & Sikhs.

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  RE:Singh
by on Dec 31, 2007 10:25 PM   Permalink
Sikh from Punjab.You ?

And Im not worrying about Pakistan.Im just telling the mind set of Hindutva forces,Modi,BJP and also Badal who is allied to BJP in Punjab.
We have some people like badal who have given up before the Hindutva forces and trying to get Sikhs assimilated in Hinduism which most Sikhs in Punjab and even outside fiercely resist .

It is this same ideology which is prevalent in various institutions including the media.That is why Sikhs are projected in the Indian media either as terrorists or jokers .

Such things severely hit the self esteem of the Sikhs.But this will not be taken lying down any more.It is good to note that a Sikh leader from UP belonging to a non Congress-BJP party has recently taken Ambani head on for circulating anti Sikh jokes over his mobile network.Similar acts will follow .

Sikhs have never forgiven anyone who has dared to mess with the Sikh religion .This is history.The punishment may get delayed for some reason .If this is considered militancy then so be it.

The media,IB,govt including Badal(BJP)govt in Punjab has again started labelling Sikhs as militants.Whereas it should now be clear from the above example that Modi,BJP and even Congress are instead terrorists and seperatists .

The very same govts ie center and Punjab who are labelling Sikhs as militants are instead giving protection to Sirsa saadh who has openly challenged the Sikh community,further he has committed murder and rape.What the govt has done is given

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by on Dec 31, 2007 11:09 PM   Permalink
for Jitendar Kumar :
Im Sikh from Punjab but not Pakistan.
Who is instigating one community against the other ?
We are instead facing an onslaught on our religion and defending ourselves against it.
We are resisting assimilation and interference in our religion.
This is the majority view in Punjab that is why the Shiv sena,RSS band against installation of Sant Bhindranwale's potrait(which is an internal matter of the Sikhs) evoked zero response in Punjab although BJP(Badal) indirectly tried to help Shiv sena.



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by IMPARTIAL on Dec 31, 2007 11:28 PM   Permalink
You seem to be in drunken state raising silly and baseless issues.

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by deepak on Jan 01, 2008 04:11 AM   Permalink
dont talk abt mindset buddy. the world is reeling under Islamic terror and you talking about mindset? from England to USA, Holland to Denmark Islamism wrecks havoc with their evil fanatical doctrine and you come and teach about Hindu mindset?? the very fact there are more Muslims in India and that they get to be Azim Premji and not terrorists is proof enough of Hindu mindset. Hindus are the only civilizing influence on Muslims. Get that man.

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by on Dec 31, 2007 10:38 PM   Permalink
The very same govts ie center and Punjab who are labelling Sikhs as militants are instead giving protection to Sirsa saadh who has openly challenged the Sikh community,further he has committed murder and rape.What the govt has done is given him z plus security which is given only to so called VIP people in India.

Had he been a common man he would either have been given life sentence or hanged but since votes are connected to him he is given VIP status.

Here it needs to be clarified that most Sikhs in Punjab(I cant say about those outside) are against the fascist hindutva forces but not against the hindu religion as such.

Further Sikhs are not Hindus and assimilation will never be tolerated .

It was not tolerated during Mughals nor during Congress rule in 1980/90s nor will it be tolerated today .


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by Jitendra Kumar on Dec 31, 2007 10:51 PM   Permalink
You are liar for sure. You are expert in instigating one community to other and such expertise can be imported from one country only that is pakistan. You have opened your mouth so wide that internal secrets have came out. Kindly look at your country pakistan it is burning , you do not need IB ,Modi or CIA to disintegrate. It will be done by your brothers only, so put your best effort to keep it united instead of working as a match box.

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by on Dec 31, 2007 11:28 PM   Permalink
for ROMESH KUMAR :

The same can be said when a minority community is pushed to the wall what happened from 1978 onwards in Punjab is bound to happen.

You reap what you sow.

If you think that you or indian govt will get away this time after messing with Sikhs you are mistaken .

Despite your hindutva govt being in power you were not able to close even one shop in Punjab during the recent call given by the Hindutva forces in protest against the installation of the potrait of Sant Jarnail Singh.

As regards my age Im not bound to tell you about that but I can tell you Ive seen all events in Punjab since 1978.

Many Sikhs like me are alive and well and no anti Sikh act will be tolerated.

If we are pushed to the wall as the Badal(BJP) has started to do you yourself have said what happens then.

Trying to mess with us and considering us a minority will be a mistake.

You can never assimilate or destroy us.



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by ROMESH KUMAR on Dec 31, 2007 10:53 PM   Permalink
Those Hindu criminals in Gujarat or elsewhere are not playing in the hands of ISI.

Secondly, when majority community is pushed to wall by minority it is ought to happen.

You are Sikh from Punjab. Can you please tell me how old are you and where were you from 1978 onwards ?

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by ROMESH KUMAR on Dec 31, 2007 11:03 PM   Permalink
Sikhs are not Hindus, but they were Hindus,inhabitants of India.

But Hindus were not Sikhs, they were and are Hindus/Punjabis/Indians.



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by Mahajan Tarun on Jan 01, 2008 05:39 AM   Permalink
Mr. on Please get some life. HINDUS, MUSLIMS, SIKHS - all Indians please do not listen to this guy. I have been following him for some time now in these posts and I can see that under this false name "on" this person always speaks against India in whatever matter. I have always seen this - he will cleverly try to hide his identity saying he is not a pakistani and trying to give unbiased views but always he tries to point out the wrong with Hindus or India. Even if he is an Indian its even worse as all he is doing is trying to disintegrate. Please read any of his posts and you will know. Earlier he was writing for muslims and now for sikhs. He is just trying to flame the emotions. Please be careful. I have requested him a few times to stop this but he is still on. God anyway will punish him. Mr. on, if u think killing in the name of Allah or speaking bad for other religions in the name of Allah is good than you are in great loss my dear. Its allah who wil punish you for this.


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by Hooter on Dec 31, 2007 09:10 PM   Permalink
If ISI has vacancy, go & join them or any of their affiliations like LeT or some Mujahiddeen ... chances are that either you will be hunted down on Pak-Afghan border OR Pak-India LOC.

Goodluck for new year.

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