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Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Act First on Dec 27, 2007 12:51 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

I have some simple questions who are against missionaries
1. Why Matha Amrithananda, Shri Shri Ravi shankar and all the so called gurus of India spend 90% of their time in so called christian west? To convert whome?
2. Why most of the desciples of these gurus are from Christian west whome are basically born in Christain religion? First you ban these . I know many of them staying for months in these ashrams.
3. Why 90% of money for these gurus came from west. 2 years before India today published a cover story regarding. The amounts which they publishe re astounding. All ashrams recieve huge amounts of money from west.
4. Ask any of the so called high profile Hindutva leader where they studied whether its vajpayee, Advani.. Or where their sons/grand sons studying. 90% cases it will be a missionary school.

5. If you people cannot sit with a dalit or have food because you are so high and close to God nad your God despise it, let these missionaries do it. If these people are doing which you cannot do, no meaning getting upset.

I feel pity about people who thinks that they are protecting their religion and god by killing people nad burning thatched hut churches. I feel pity about God(s) which need human protection.



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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 12:54 AM   Permalink
Do these questions justify converting Hindus by false promises to Heaven?The heinous agenda of Christians to make Hinduism extinct?

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 12:59 AM   Permalink
Life is God. Every developed country in the world is secular & disciplined and follows 'Uniform Civil Code'. Religion is One. It is the development of the Body & Mind. Rest are all lies and mockery and manipulation of the emotions and brains of people. Spend more time in Science, Technology, Art, Music, Sports and build economies around these for Humans & Infrastructure around these activities. Organized religion is organized madness. Just limit to Human Mind and Human Body and Human Values for Human & Gender -- Equality & Unity. The Sanskrit word - Artha means both money & meaning for Life. The Buddhist concept of 'Sangha' is also that of communism! Hence, meaningful capitalism & communism is part of humanism. This is real Hinduism as most Hindus are unaware of their philosophy. Even the gods and goddesses are scientific concepts. Shiva stands for freedom, Ganesha for wisdom, Saraswati for knowledge, Lakshmi for wealth, which are objectives of every human being in life. But people have distorted them too much. There is nothing called Christian West. All Western countries are secular and more evolved.

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 01:14 AM   Permalink
HINDU CONCEPT OF GOD IS MORE NEAR TO TRUTH THAN ALL THE MIDDLE EASTERN 'OLD MAN TRUE GOD' IMAGES.
BRAHMA STANDS FOR CREATION WHICH IS AN INHERENT TRUTH IN THE UNIVERSE,VISHNU FOR MAINTENANCE AND SHIVA OR DESTRUCTION.IF SOME ILL-INFORMES MINORITY MAN IS CONCERNED ONLY ABOUT SHIVA'S GENITAL,THEN WHAT ELSE TO SAY OTHER THAN,YA ALLAH!!! OR LORD SAVE HIS IGNORANCE.

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Act First on Dec 27, 2007 01:01 AM   Permalink
If these gurus can convert people from west, who are basically christians, why can't the missionaries do this
First you ask these gurus stop doing this and then ask misionaries to stop.
You ask ISKON to stop their activities in Christian west, then complain about missionaries.
You ask all these ashrams and gurus to stop accepting money from west and then preach about foreign money to christian organisations.

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 01:04 AM   Permalink
They have been doing it-destroying great culture(like the Native American,for example,since you won't accept that Hindu culture is great) for centuries.Now it is high time that Hindus take the same act and crush these missionary activities.They will run with fire on their tails when even a 100 Chrisatians see the truth and return to Hinduism.Christianity is a loser even in the West.

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 12:56 AM   Permalink
What Hindus need to do is play the same game.Convert some'high profile' chiristians to Hinduism and we will see all these missionaries running around in panic and taking memorandums to Sonia Amma and Pope.

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by italyseaayi on Dec 27, 2007 12:57 AM   Permalink
U moron they are doing socital job not religious conversion. Think first dont act first.

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by Act First on Dec 27, 2007 01:14 AM   Permalink
Funny Logic..
Eevery one is doing that only.. only in the front..
Backdoor activities varies..

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Anuj Jain on Dec 27, 2007 01:04 AM   Permalink
ACT II: You need to dig deeper for an answer man. Hinduism is the only religion which doesn't deny existence of other religion, in fact Hinduism is a way of life and not a religion. Sri Sri Ravi shankar is not preaching religion, he is preaching Art of living, he doesn't say that when you medidate you can not think of christ, he doesn't force you not to go to churches etc.
History taugh us that Islam converted by sword and christians converted by persuasion. Hinduism was deliberately maligned by Western historians to decredit it of being the most ancient religion of all, the Sanathan Dharma, supposed to be descended to earth from god himself and practiced and propagated by rishis.
Hindusim is caught in the tangle between Islam and Christianity who had been fighting for glory their gods.
I have been to mosques and churches, however ask any muslim or christian to bow in a hindu temple, and see for yourself what look you get.

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by Act First on Dec 27, 2007 01:12 AM   Permalink
Argument is simple boss..
You can present your religion in any form whether open or wrapped form. Ravishankar is doing it in chocolate wrappers
Either every one stop it or allow both gurus and missionaries to continue..
If gurus has the freedom to conduct their meetings in US, UK etc and accept those people as desciples, then missionaries has every freedom to conduct their activities in India.

Either it is for all or for none..
There is no IF...BUT clauses..

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  RE:Where are the Gurus/Mathas?
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 01:17 AM   Permalink
rAVISHANKAR WOULD HAVE LEARNED MARKETING FROM CHRISTIAN PADRES.

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