Please understand that we are all Indians not necessarily Hindus.
If Mr.Modi's victory is the pride for Hindus of the world. What happened to the Hindus in Sri Lanka????
What Modis and Advanis are doing to protect the Hindus in Sri Lanka??????
Any religion in a matter is a personal belief. It is between Him and His God. Not for politics.
Never ever confuse and mix religion and politics.
Wrongs in Catholic organisations should be revealed to the public and culprits should be punished.
Babri Masjid demolishers also should be punished.
Fake encounters should be stopped at any cost.
No organisation or individual have the right to destroy other's properties, whether it is a Temple, Mosque, Church or Gurdwara etc.
Be sensible Indians to decided which is right or wrong. Wrong is a wrong and right is a right. Whomesoever doing wrong should be punished, whether it is Narendrabhai Modi, or Sonia.
Let us be a human being. Not religious terrorists.
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Yatin Tamhane on Dec 26, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
Now that Modi has won the elections, everyone will start saying that we are Indians first etc. Had he lost the elections, the same people would have abused Hindus in the name of secularism... Not surprised to see this comment
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Patiraj Yadav on Dec 26, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
So long as Hindus are considered as second grade citizens in their own country, no hindu person in any other part of the world can expect safe & better environment. Modi has gifted hindus a sense of pride in their identity. Pseudo-secularists have always tried to make hindus feel ashamed of their religion. Indian Hindus are in need of more protection than others.
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Ekalavya Krishnan on Dec 26, 2007 01:58 PM Permalink
What about the sermons during the Sunday Mass? Every ex-Gujarati proselytiser sermonised and ordered every Paulian to vote for CONgress. The world would be a better place only if all old criminal genocidal cases even if it is 2000 years are re-opened and the perperators or their progeny punished for the Inquistions or plunder/loot/rape of the rival cult. We don't need to punish them with death but to forcibly excommunicate their cult from this planet
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by J Livingston on Dec 26, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
Which church you heared that a christian preacher sermonized that to vote for Congress.? Please let me know that I am ready go with you to say to the preacher that it is wrong. You are the worst enemy of this democratic country India. Past wrongs needs to be corrected now. Need not to repeat the past wrongs by the present generations.
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by Ekalavya Krishnan on Dec 26, 2007 06:15 PM Permalink
On Ashram Road, Karnavati I heard them do so. I went in to confirm what my friends told me. Don't feign ignorance, in Kerala it is the regular practice for the cassocked fraudsters to sermonize on whom to vote they have their frontal organizations like Kerala Congress of various hues. But my surprise is how these congenital fraudsters fell for the DMK trick. Have you ever found any Paulian in any ministerial or responsible position in the DMK?
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Srinivasan Prathivathi on Dec 26, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
I fully agree with the sentiments expressed by you.We are Indians first and the religious Brand next.Let us not use the word comunal or secular.The words communal and secular are used loosely suiting the requirement and personal agendas.Let Religion be kept personal and it should not play a part in political maneauvouring.Let us not convert people into any faiths as all Religions are great.Let us not seek reservations on the basis of Religion.Let us build a Resurgent India without any religious identity and march forward only as an Indian. Our country is the youngest country in the world as about 50% of our population is young when compared to other countries. This is the legacy we have to leave behind for our young generation.
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by Ekalavya Krishnan on Dec 26, 2007 06:25 PM Permalink
You must be kidding yourself Hinduism, Sikhism and Jainism are the only religions on earth the rest are cults with hired prayer makers, charlatans alll employed to glorify an intensely jealous God who did not know that the earth and other things he was supposed to have created as spherical or the earth went around the Sun. Whereas the self proclaimed SON said the earth was 64 miles square, the other terrorist said when asked where the sun went every evening proclaimed that once on a long walk to the West he saw the Sun hiding in a marsh!
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Ekalavya Krishnan on Dec 26, 2007 02:01 PM Permalink
By the by, don't ever mention Antonia and Modiji in the same breath. One is spotlessly incorruptible proud patriotic Indian. The other is unscrouply corrupt, venal patriotic Italian or is is Vaticanian
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Madhusudhan N.R. on Dec 26, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
Sounds nice and idealistic, Livi. Come back to the real world. First, understand that Hindus and Hinduism have never claimed monopoly on God. Its the semetics who are doing it. Srilankan Hindus are welcome to share the pride of Modi's win, but they know how to take care of themselves. Modis and Advanis will worry about protecting Indian citizens first. You talk of babri masjid, a delapidated structure which was demolished by Hindus. Then do not forget the hundreds of functioning Hindu temples in Pak, Bangladesh and other Islamic states that were razed. Why should the Pope, as a guest in India, talk about conversion of Hindus? Don't Hindus and our organizations have the right to retaliate? Who gives the right to the mullahs and the christian priests to throw mud at Hinduism? What do they know about the beauty, depth and glory of the Sanatana Dharma? Yes, the law has to be respected. Tell that to the jihadi hordes pouring across the borders, fomenting trouble in India and to the Indian muslims supporting them in their nefarious designs. Then talk about Hindus. The Gujarat victory is indeed a matter of great pride for all Hindus, and also a kick in the butt for all secular apologists and the converting hordes who are turning against their hosts, like cancerous cells. Like it or lump it.
RE:RE:Indians not Hindus
by J Livingston on Dec 26, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
As you said Babri Masjid razed by Hindus also wrong. Muslims razing the Hindu structure in Bangladesh or other countries also wrong. Let the Modis and Advanis protect the Indian Hindus first. I agree, but above which anywhere in the world if the Humanitarian laws general to the entire globe is overtaken we should have the duty to condemn the wrong things. Whether it is happened in USA, UK or anywhere in the world. In Srilanka the Hindus are suffering only because they are tamils. Most of them are Hindus. Irrespective of your religion, cast, colour please respect the humanitarian sense. No religion is better than the other. No religion is worst than the other. Trust God and go ahead. Leave the religion aside.
RE:Indians not Hindus
by Ekalavya Krishnan on Dec 27, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
"What Hindus who have been trapped in a sentimental glorification of Jesus and other prophets will have to learn, is that the essence of Hindu Dharma is not %u201Ctolerance%u201D, or %u201Cequal respect for all religions%u201D, but Satya, truth. The problem with Christianity and Islam is superficially their intolerance and fanaticism. But this intolerance is a consequence of these religions%u2019 untruthfulness: if your belief system is based on delusions, you have to pre-empt rational inquiry into it and shield it from contact with more sustainable thought systems. The fundamental problem with the monotheist religions is not that they are intolerant, but that they are untrue, (Asatya or Anrita). "
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by bhooma on Dec 27, 2007 07:35 AM Permalink
Mr.Periyar agreed that every citizen has the right to follow any religion based on their personal belief.But personal should not spoil the society.In the name of religion you should not ask for different laws.What ever be your personal religion remember you should be an indian and you should abide to indian civil laws and indian criminal laws.Why you want different civil laws but want indian criminal laws. why you want reservation on the basis of religion. people have right to convert.But nobody has the right to preach and lure people to convert. yes caste system makes people to think and convert.But conversion does not solve the issue.now also people called them selves as converted christians without shedding their caste identity. To stop all this caste system, first caste and religion based reservation should go and the people should not be asked to give the religion and caste at any point even at the time of child's school admission and even if asked those who want to come out these crutches should refuse to divulge the same. then only this menance will be stopped.
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by Periyar on Dec 26, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
Religion is everybody's personal belief. India is a democratic country and everybody has right to follow any religion and have right to convert.Please find reasons why people are converting?? It is because they looks for equality, they hates caste system, they hate Mausmrithi. Livingston, u dnt have to be regretted, cheer up
RE:Indians not Hindus
by J Livingston on Dec 26, 2007 02:47 PM Permalink
Dear Vishal,
If "the mullahs instruct the muslims whome to vote or Kerala's churches where the priest instruct the cathlics whome to vote" both are wrong. They are the worst enemies of our democratic country of India. They should stop this activity immediately. Any sensible person whether He is a Hindu or Muslim or Christian or Sikh etc would not listen their religious leaders whome to vote. Individual rights needs to be exercised fairly and freely without any bias by all the citizens of India.
RE:Indians not Hindus
by ARVIND DESAI on Dec 26, 2007 05:06 PM Permalink
My dear friend Livingston, Do you really have practical and viable plans for actually making the mullahs and church priests stop meddling in politics? Don't you remember that Churchill (or maybe someone else??) had said that the church is our fifth column and it never fails. This dirty practice of using religion to grab political control (like many many other dirty things which we have imbibed in the last about a hundred years) has come to us from Europe/ Middle East. We need to destroy this tendancy there and not here in India where we are somehow trying to save whatever good things are still left in our once glorious civilization.
RE:Indians not Hindus
by J Livingston on Dec 26, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
Yes Dr. Arvind Desai. I agree with you. Religion and politics should not mix at any cost. It is not good for the democratic India. At any cost it should be stopped, whether it comes from UK or somewhere else.
RE:RE:Indians not Hindus
by Ekalavya Krishnan on Dec 26, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
the censor paid by the Vatican works at break neck speed is it Livingston?
