You mean history books written by pseudo secular Congress to appease Muslims ?
The frustration that you see amongst Hindus is the result of stabbing in the back by the Barbaric Muslim and Christian rulers and converters. Remember that Hindus invited these folks in good faith just like we did to Parsis who came from Persia. You can clearly see the contribution of Parsis vs Muslims/Christians in India !
I personally get offended when Hindus are converted to other religions. Only I am not vocal in my frustration as other Hindus on this forum. The conversion is not only of the religion but also of culture. I have seen both the 'Partygoing/lack of interest in education' attitude amongst Indian Christians and the narrow/filthy bylanes of Muslim dominated regions in Mumbai. Apart from a few exceptions, the majority from both of these communities are ashamed of our culture and still believe that they are decendents of the original invaders even though the facial features clearly indicate South Asian decent. What hypocracy ! I wish I had a time machine where I could show them how their ancestors were plundered and converted forcefully or by deceit.
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by Brendan DeCruz on Dec 23, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Sorry milind,,, I dont think so...I am quite sure that majority of indian christians are indian at heart... atleast culture wise...and for the minority people that you apeak of buddy they are simply modern,westernised,carefree and rebellious teenage types,,, and let me tell you this westernised attitude cuts across all religions.... after all in today's generation most teens (and I mean metro city teens, am from bangalore myself dude) identify themselves with USA... religion is not the factor here, but the rest are...
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by vandana nigam on Dec 23, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
Then dude ( Brendan Decruz )
If you identify with USA , then how about shifting to USA, bcos you have just self contradicted, when you said that you are indian at heart ......? but i think you are American at heart. You are a just a totally confused Youth who thinks who knows too much , but is a case of Confused & lost Identity. Wake Up! before its too late.
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by Brendan DeCruz on Dec 23, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
dear vandan, I think u didn't get me... I did not self contradict...I mean to say that me being from an uptown happening place like bangalore, I get to see the actual westernised party hopping chilled out drug snortin dazy eyed teens , and trust me they cut across all religions... I wanted to convey the fact that being westernised is not something that can be attrubuted to indian christians.... its a huge portion of teenagers.....Maybe ur from a small town that dates back 1000-2000 yrs but not bangalore!!!!I am not supporting westernisation, but am just saying dont have false notion that indian christains are not patroiotic, coz if u look at it that way, there are so many people who are going abroad for work and studies and all of them also qualify....
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by Act First on Dec 23, 2007 11:17 PM Permalink
Don't tell nonsenses man. If christians are forcing conversion, why Matha Amritha or Shri Shri Ravishankar spend 90% of time in "Christian west". Why even RSS is accepting money from US agencies? 90% of the money all the "so called godmen/woman" in this country are coming from "Christian west". So before bashing , do an introspection.
The only countries where every one has freedom is where christains are majority, whether it is US or Europe. There Hindus can worship/preach or Gurus can hold conventions. No issue.
Everyone knows that most of the desiples of all gurus are from west, also money. So don't spit on your face itself. Why NDA reigme did not block foreign support for religious organization? Because then matha will maigrate to US. RSS will close down office.
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by vandana nigam on Dec 23, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
Can you Please specify as to which Christian organization in the west is funding the Hindu Organization. If the Hindu God men or God women are going to the west ( Are westerners idiots ) that they getting carried away by their discourses.It is bcos the westerners perhaps need the Hindu Philosophy to understand themselves better.
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by jude on Dec 23, 2007 11:51 PM Permalink
I think these guys like Vandana & Milind accusing cristians for no reason is absolutely absurd. Look at majority of the populated metro cities applying to western culture. Majority hindus migrate abroad & without doubt the bollywood too is being more western than traditional. We catholics were always Indian first. We hve always beleived in peace more than anything. & if it all we wanna go out & have a beer I bet we will be just 1% of catholics sitting in that bar ( rest hindus)So I think its not just catholics who have changed thier mind set it is most of us educated Indians. We have not converted ourselves recently it was long long time ago & all we wanna do is being a cool catholic than being some hot headed freak!!!
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by karishma himatsinghani on Dec 24, 2007 03:22 AM Permalink
to act first why hindu gurus are allowed in west world?simply because they preach nice things and dont force christians to convert into hindus.as far as money is concern so let me remind you my friend that in western world so many hindus are living and donating money ,if any christians or christian organisation is donating then its purly their choice and understanding ,there is no forceful activity .just because usa or western countries are christians doesn't mean christians are donating the money.and as far my understanding of the whole issue ,indian hindus are not against christianity or christians but yes we are against of forceful conversions ,which is a bitter truth and should be accepted by broadminded christians and muslims and therefore some effort is required by the same to stop it.
