I dont understand why the Communist Russia was the biggest threat to US in all ways ( They outdid US ) not anymore and the same way how communist China is doing that ....
RE:Russia & China
by Bhola on Dec 21, 2007 09:01 PM Permalink
Can you enlighten specifics regarding USSR and USA ? and how is china outdoing US ? sectorwise please.
RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
I dont know why you need an enlightenment to figure out that .. A kid can tell you why US was afraid of USSR and the same thing is happening with China .. Do you think the US have guts to do the Iraq model with China ???
RE:Russia & China
by Bhola on Dec 21, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Countries dont attack each other like fools, except Iraq case which was more of Bush adamancy.
Compare the level of technology of US defense equipment versus Chinese. US has at least 2 generation ahead fighters, submarines, ICBMs, as well as missile defense systems. The only country that has equivalent power is Russia.
China is inferior power and they know it. Besides US dont have any plausible reason nor does China to attach each other and loose over $1000 billion worth of two way trade.
RE:RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
Well, again you are missing the point Bhola ...My point is simple.... US gets the strongest threat from a communist country ...and they will not dare to attack them... I want to know why ?>???
RE:RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
And except Iraq???? How many such attacks you know Bhola by any other sensible country ????
RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
When did they attack for that matter ??? Once they tried and burnt their fingers ... Why can they ?? Even if North Korea challenges US to do it, they will never ...
RE:Russia & China
by Bhola on Dec 21, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
I will advice you again to think deeper to understand international politics.
It depends on how you perceive threats.
China thinks USA is a threat because it fears USA will intervene in Taiwan in case China uses force to invade Taiwan. USA feels should China attack Japan or Korea, for some reason, USA has to act. USA has 13 aircraft carrier groups which are loaded with nuclear weapons and superior to anything that China has, just as a show of strength. Even in wildest dreams Chinese will never think of attacking mainland of the US soil unless if they want to get wiped out. China on the other hand can surely destroy one or two US cities, which US fears naturally.
In essence, THE PRICE OF WAR IS TOO HIGH without any commensurate benefit for both parties, HENCE WAR IS UNLIKLY, TRADE WILL CONTINUE nevermind mutual suspicions.
RE:RE:RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:41 PM Permalink
I definitely dont know much details about ICBM's and thats not my business. But about the other stuffs you mentioned , China will not think of attacking US but they can do it Via Thaiwan.. And China will wait for that too. And with all these so called military power why US lost in Vietnam and losing in Iraq and will lose in Iran ?? So , weapons doesn't matter , money matters and China has that now...
RE:RE:RE:Russia & China
by Bhola on Dec 21, 2007 09:33 PM Permalink
BTW USA already has missile defense system to destroy lesser ICBMs as that of North Korea. Destroyed from Space. They are not those highly superior Russian ICBMs which are like hell breaking lose , a barrage of MIRVs.
RE:RE:RE:Russia & China
by Bhola on Dec 21, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
Why will USA kill a trillion dollar trade relationship with China ?
What was level of US Iraq trade ? Do you have any answers or arguing for sake of arguing. By your logic all stronger countries attack weaker countries just for NOTHING.
So Russia should attack Ukraine, China should attack Vietnam, India should attack Nepal ?
Stop this childish discussion and grow up and read more about international affairs instead of showing your genius.
OK for your sake, I AGREE you are a genius, now stay happy.
RE:RE:RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:55 PM Permalink
After reading that Saudi part ,, i think you are childish, not me ... So Defeat happens to the mighty too in battles right ??? Well thats what i was trying to put in your bhola brain ..
RE:Russia & China
by Rajeev on Dec 21, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
No need of a certifcate Bhola .. whoever rules Eurasia rules the planet . And a war between US and China cannot be ruled out too.. And you were talking about ICBM's ,,, North korea have ICBM's which can reach Chicago .. I mean North Korea... And the other stuffs you mentioned tells more of your genious brain than mine.
RE:Russia & China
by Bhola on Dec 21, 2007 09:47 PM Permalink
So ? Defeats happen in battles. USSR lost in Afghanistan, Indian lost to China 1965, China lost to Japan ww2, France lost to Germany, USA lost in Vietnam battle but you cannot say Vietnam invaded USA soil, a smaller country can beat larger country in battles where it has a tactical advantage as in Iraq like you say, but you cannot say Iraq invaded USA.
Besides I have yet to see any news report to say USA has lost Iraq war, they are there still, and will withdraw , it is not their country.
As for money part, by your logic Saudi Arabia who holds $3 trillion reserves in the US banks, should be the most powerful country of the world.
Anyway, you seem too childish to discuss any futher, lets leave it at that.
