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Pawar & Shivaji.......
by ways pune on Dec 18, 2007 07:30 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

The writer says - Pawar, arguably the tallest Maratha leader Maharashtra has had since Shivaji and Yashwantrao Chavan.....this writer must be crazy.... either she is a NCP insider or an inexperienced newcomer..
firstly Shivaji undoubtedly is the greatest hero of Maharashtra, when whole of India was being ruled by Mughals / Kutubs / Nizams he had the guts to think of "swarajya"... he was the only hindu king in the islamic India of 17th century..who carved his swarajya out of the land ruled by these rulers...
Giving Mr. Pawar place in the same row is sheer foolishness, further it also shows lack of knowledge of history...and insults so many great leaders this land produced
after shivaji Marathas kept fighting with all the invaders and once ruled from Tanjavur in Kerala to Attak (now on Pak - Afghan border)with its capital in Pune...
how could the writer forget
Sambhai Raje
Bajiarao Peshawe
Madhavrao Peshawe
Bhausaheb Peshawe - the hero of Panipat who fought a great war against Ahmedshah Abdali to save Dilli Takht... the pride of India
How could she forget Lokmanya Tilak... the lion of freedom struggle...and if she and rediff thinks Pawar is taller than bal gangadhar tilak...then they should be sent to schools again, or to Munnabhai ki library to read more books...
anand



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  RE:Pawar & Shivaji.......
by swami mane on Dec 19, 2007 12:31 PM   Permalink
all peshwas had not created anything, they had only kept it alive. we are taking about creating swaraj.

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  RE:Pawar & Shivaji.......
by ways pune on Dec 19, 2007 08:55 PM   Permalink
mr swami,
how can u say peshwas didnt create anything... for your information - after the death of Sambhaji Raje, Mughals got back most of their territory, it was during the rule of peshwas maharashtra ruled from south to north.... seed that was sown by Shivaji grew in the peshwe rule..
if u say we are talking from the point of view of creating swarajya, then which swarajya did mr pawar create...

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  RE:Pawar & Shivaji.......
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Dec 19, 2007 07:36 PM   Permalink
My friend, please don't look at history from caste prisom. We need to be proud of our great heritage. Peshwa did expand the Maratha empire created by Shivaji/Sambhaji Maharaj.

And writer probably meant leader from "Maratha" community. But still, I think there were VERY tall maratha leaders between Shivaji Maharaj and Yashwantrao Chavan. To name the few:

1. Mahadaji Shinde of Gwalior
2. Malharrao Holkar of Indor
3. Bhosale from Nagpur
4. Bhosale from Tanjor
5. Gaikwad from Baroda
6. Bhosale from Sawantwadi
7. Shahu Maharaj of Satara

We as Marahi are proud of this great heritage. Author is VERY weak on history and I think rediff needs to be very careful on what to publish on its website.

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by Ratnesh Sahay on Dec 27, 2007 06:29 AM   Permalink
Mahadji Shinde...a Maratha ? He was self proclaimed Maratha, not a real one. Otherwise, Jiwaji wouldn't have informed the British and got Lakshmibai killed.

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