From history we can find that Muslims are very brave and ruthless when they are in majority. But when they are in minority, they are real timids. So in India if Hindus (majority at present) want to live in peace there is no need to kill muslims. If BJP comes to power they need not antagonise muslims, instead they should socially, politically and financialy boycott few people or send them out of India parmanently forever. These people are Javed aktar, Teesta Satalvad, Sabana Azmi, Mahesh Bhatt, Barkha Dutt, Rajdeep Sardesai, Imam Bukhari and their ilk. After that Muslims shoulf be told 3 things, (1) No friday prayers on the road (allowed inside the mosque) (2) No subsidy for Haj piligrimage, (3) No children more than two. And if they dont follow they should either convert to Hinduism or get lost to any muslim country. If these things are implemented muslims will live with hindus in India peacefully forever. This is possible as long as Hindus are majority.
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by Rash on Dec 16, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Modi have no capability to send shivers among moslems instead he is regarded as one devil belonging to a filthy religion who send anger among muslims
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by Rash on Dec 16, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
@AnUnknownIndian A state minister openly justifying horrors then what do u expect from us shall we call it democracy..?? or what
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by AnUnknownIndian on Dec 16, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
@rash I am not talking on Micro level. In Micro level you will find wrong things in every political party. I was talking about macro level. Still to your question I would like to ask 2 lakhs families of Kashmiri Pandits are refugees in their own caountry, courtesy Congress, you call it democracy..?? or what
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by Rash on Dec 16, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
AnUnknownIndian Crime is crime no justificaton. Neither im BJP supporter nor a Congress. But i would like you people to judge a true leader. But On the contrary, in a system where a state minister can openly justify murder and still allowed to cling to his office is a sham democracy.
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by AnUnknownIndian on Dec 16, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
@Rash I am not supporting crime. please read my message. What I was saying is if muslims are to live in India peacefully they are required to follow the rules of the majority. Hindus are forced to do that in Pak, Bangladesh, Malaysia etc.
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by Syed Haque on Dec 16, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
For your information: the current muslim population of the Muslims is the largest in the history in geographical area of India (as we have it now)
Muslims ruled the country when they were only a few hundred thousands... and they were accepted by the masses almost entire of which was Hindus becos they were brave, impartial and loved justice. People embraced Islam because it gave them hope against the selfish, luxury lovers, tormentors and nepotic rules like Dahir... wake up mate...Read History
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by mahendra nayak on Dec 16, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Muslims in India are really weak. Always they are in receiving end. It is the fanatics who are spreading false information that muslims will do this and that, they will be in majority in years to come. All rumor spreading to gain votes and grab power.
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by AnUnknownIndian on Dec 16, 2007 12:47 PM Permalink
@Mahendra, Wake up man. what was the perecentage of muslims in India in 1947 and what it is now, Do you know that??
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by Rash on Dec 16, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
Your ruling system is not allowing muslims to hold the highter authorities, muslims should not be needed to show their strenght in majority..
1) People going to tirth yatra should have tickets in their hand .and not creating problem to non tirth yatri passenger 2) space should be provided as per muslim population to offer namaz inside mosque 2) they should avoid polluting natural resource like rivers... 3) this is my country ... jina yahan marna yahan .....better u implement in you u need it more
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by AnUnknownIndian on Dec 16, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
@Tariq. I partly not fully agree with you on all the 4 points. Look I am noy bothered about the muslims outside India. I was talking about Indian Muslims. I DO NOT support communal killings. My point was straight forward. To live peace fully in India minority should always follow the rules of majority. Point 1 agreed. Point 2. A whole country was created in the name of muslim population, but you are still looking for space. point 3. Agreed fully. Point 4. jina yahan marna yahan .....is possible if you agree for no special treatment like Haj subsidy, or no N number of children.
1) People going to tirth yatra should have tickets in their hand .and not creating problem to non tirth yatri passenger. AGREE. 2) space should be provided as per muslim population to offer namaz inside mosque only. BUILDING LAWS WILL BE AMENDED TO GIVE YOU MORE SPACE, JUST GET CLEAR THE ROADS FOR ALL THOSE WHO PAY ROAD TAX. 2) they should avoid polluting natural resource like rivers. AND YOU SHOULD STOP POLLUTING THE EARTH. CREMATE THEM. 3) this is my country ... jina yahan marna yahan .....better u implement. HO GAYA SAMJHO.
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by rgtech on Dec 16, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
This shows why hinduism is loosing its scope.They think they can do anything and should not be blamed as if whatever they do is correct.While if any muslim does any small mistake he is terrorist,blah,blah...is this what hinduism teaches?Pls don't spoil the name of your own religion.
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by SHRI RAM on Dec 16, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
Hinduism is nothing else just Indianisation, change this theory of HINDU-MUSLIM, all Indians are Indians/HINDUS respective with their faiths. All Sikhs, Jains, Budhist, Muslims and Christians born in India are also Hindus. These all are sub Groups, only this theory helps All Indians to live peacefully and integrated.
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by Rash on Dec 16, 2007 12:48 PM Permalink
Hahaha when i read your msg it makes me laugh buddy For your kind information There is no child who is not born in a state of islam then his parents make him into a Hindu.a Jew, a Christian or a Magian
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by SHRI RAM on Dec 16, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
Hindu signifies nativity not religion, Hindu is a persian word, which they used to classify people born in indus vallley civilization or subcontinent. After Invasions of muslims realized Idol worshipers that their faiths/culture are different and they statrted calling Hinus as a separate class, No where and in No VEDA, or any any ancient Book, Hindu word is used or classified it as religion.
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by AnUnknownIndian on Dec 16, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
@RgTech, Respecting your reply I would like to ask you, why in India Muslims are getting sublidy for Haj? and how come people who are visiting Amarnath are being taxed?
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by Ali boy on Dec 16, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
and what if tied is turned and muslims come to power...wont it be right for them to correct their wrong which they did when they ruled india 1000 years and not converting your ancestors.
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by chem tkmce on Dec 16, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
More than 80% non-Muslims in India. The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non- Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.
Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, %u201CWhich Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?%u201D
Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, %u201CWhich Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa?%u201D
Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.
Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhan, that is the call for prayers.
The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is gi