1. Muslims opposition to Vande Matram 2. Muslims insistance to their personal laws 3. 90% of Muslims supported Pakistan 4. Concept of Kafir 5. Jihad against Kafirs 6. Inhuman way of killing animals 7. Resistance to any new ideas 8. Living with the 7th centuary mentality 9. Concept of Jannat where they will get 72 virgins
Let Muslims contradit the above and non-muslims please add to the list - Raman
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 15, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
Raman, i guess u r one of unlucky ones who didn't get basic education or u were in a math following the teaching of some munni or sant.. wake up... ask ur so called hindu friends to recite vande mataram completely once, u will then know who knows vande mataram, fyi, many indians and foreigners suggest having halal food, where the animals are cut the proper way.. iam sure u wouldn't agree, but then that's the problem with hindus...
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by Raman Sehgal on Dec 15, 2007 12:10 PM Permalink
Dont abuse man - give reasoning All freedom fighters died on gallow while reciting Vande Matram - Jana Gana.. was writted to praise UK King. While singing Vande Matram - there is feeling of patriotism whereas u just sing Jana Gana..
Regarding Halal meat - have some heart and pity on animals (which all muslims do not have).
Give proper reasoning and dont hide by saying something on muni etc
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by ahamed sharif on Dec 15, 2007 12:10 PM Permalink
1. Muslims opposition to vande matram.
Similar words are used in "saare jahaan se achha" by Sir Mohammed Iqbal. No muslim opposes that. Patriotism is demonstrated in that poem "saare jaahan se achhha" 2. Why should we accept someone else personal laws. 3. 10% of ignorant and illiterate muslims may support pakistan. Give them education and jobs they too will behave properly. Irfan pathan man of the match against Pakistan is also a muslim. Wasim jaffer double centurion against pakistan is also a muslim. Missile man Kalam is a muslim. 3. Who is a Kaafir. Who declares that God does not exist. 4. Jihad is not to start killing whoever non-muslim coming your way. When your existence is in danger raise the sword. How many non-muslims are getting killed in saudi, dubai, sharjah. 6. First let us have an international debate on whether to kill animals or not. 7. Go through papers presented in international science and technology forum and see how many papers are presented by muslims. If you tell, allow women to walk on street in bikni we resist that. 8. We are happy with it, and we have progressed and have peace of mind with 7th century mentality, we don't take sleeping tablets. 9. Yes, every muslim would like to go to jannah, for that he has to stop seeing others' mothers and sisters. Behave like a gentleman. Don't be a burden on society. All womenfolk should feel secured under you.
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by mukesh dayal on Dec 15, 2007 11:58 AM Permalink
correct... i completely agree.. let muslim followers reply to this if they hv guts...
RE:RE:My Problem with Muslims
by shabeer mohammed on Dec 15, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
guts, that's not in hindu blood, try doing a blood-test ;-) the world knows...
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by Sahadevan KK on Dec 15, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
Congratulations to the people of Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh who are going to polling booths. I am sure that people will slap the both anti-people governments.
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 15, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
First of all why are you separating yourself from us. I respect all religion. Right from my childhood times, at 8.15 am everyday in school my day was starting with Jana Gana mana... followed by "India is my country..." Why u emphasize on Vandemataram. I think Jana Gana Mana is our national song. Apart from it I listen to Vandemataram by A R Rehman. I heard about some issue related to it but have not idea about it.
2-- law. Well law are the things managed by government and not individuals. So take that question to our political parties. I have not problem.
3-- Pakistan. Why the heck you think I support pakistan. I know few people in our country do that. Kick them out we dont need them.
Is Vandemataram our National song that every one is emphasizin on it? I think its patriotic song by Rabindranath Tagore.
Since my childhood I had almost all hindu friends and very few muslim friends. We never had such discussion. Despite of this we go to each other house and celebrate all festivals. When I read on such forums, I always have a question that whether my friends will also be thinking like few people on this forum.
RE:My Problem with Muslims
by Raman Sehgal on Dec 15, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail - u seem to be a very sensible man - i wish all muslims have your mentality - I am very liberal man (well that is what i think about myself - maybe I am wrong)- but I do feel strongly about certain issues.
I will not not have any problem as long as Muslims believe in their religion and keep it to themselves - but you are getting bombed man - I feel it is just a matter of time when one or ones family will get effected by it.
U have to raise your voice or wait to see your loved ones dead. There has to be something wrong with Islamic philosophy that is making this world such a dangerous place to live in. I would exhort all right thinking muslims to have a open debate in their society and remove dated ideas / preachings and do not justify them like Sharif and Shabir are doing. There is urgent requirement of reforms in Islamic Society so that all live in peace. I would like to know your comments on my thoughts - Raman
