I would like to take exception to your assumption. There have been Muslim Rulers and Muslim Invaders just like any other King or Empire. But to say that Islam was spread with a sword is a stretch.
I have a few examples.
1. Egypt - Egypt has been under Muslim Rule for the last 1400 years. Even today, you can find 14 Million Christians in Egypt. If Islam was spead by force, where did these 14 Million (15% of Population)Coptic Christians come from ? Source: Wikipedia.com
2. Spain - Spain was ruled by the Muslims for 800 years before they were driven out. If Islam was spread by sword, do you think that in 800 years, there would be any Non-Muslim in Spain ?
3. India - India was ruled by the Muslims for over 1000 years. But when the greater India was partitioned in 1947, 25% became Pakistan and 75% is what is India today. Think about it, if Islam was spread by sword, don't you think that in a 1000 years there would be more than 25% Muslims ?
4. Indonesia - Indonesia is the most populous Muslim Country. Which Islamic Army marched unto the shores of Indonesia ?
5. Nigeria - Islam is one of the 3 prominent religions in Nigeria. Which Muslim Army marched into Nigeria to spread Islam.
These are baseless allegation. Allah says in the Holy Quran that There is no compulsion in Islam. With some of my %u201CMis-Guided%u201D fellow Muslim brothers, who are using violence, it is convenient for all non-Muslims to label Muslims are violent and also make the assertion that
RE:if wat hindus think
by Raju Dalit on Dec 11, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
It is not a question of how many non-muslims are there in an Islamic country. It is how FREE they are in their day to day affairs.
see the most so called soft-islamic nation malayasia how it treats its hindu minority. Everything nice untill they asked for some right.
Nigeria, is the most horrendous riot place between christians and muslims. The muslims have installed SHARIA state unofficially in Kano state.
It was in Bali the Indonesian al-quaeda blasted innocent party goers. Let us know how Islam really spread there? How much curelty and qutle-aam?
In India muslims are known to have butchered between 25-36 million hindus thru the centuries.So many forcibly converted.
Why go far, see what happened to Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh? What hindus are doing there.When non-functional babri mosque,built on ram-mandir was demolished, the pakis and bangladeshes brought down at least 150 functional temples.
In egypt there are 9% of Christians and not much freedom there. they can never criticise muslims there, but our Indian muslims happily and gleefully write the dirties sentences that only muslims can write about Krishna, ram and sita etc.
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by Srini J on Dec 11, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
that is correct man.. u r true. Muslims when they are less in number they play minority card. When they are more in no they play sharia..
They are unpardonable. What is happening may be bad.. But that is what has to be happened on them.
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by Srini J on Dec 11, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
Yes man.. I can I wrote thesis on this UN. This in regard to study on welfare of woman in afganistan. The period was when Taliban was in its final years of rule in Afganistan.
I can tell a common thing there..
According muslim religion u can have four wives. They differ that.
One shaik has almost 11 wives all staying underone roof. What woman say is shaik comes to a house rapes the woman and takes her to his home and marries her. One day all these women got angry in rebound they killed him. Taliban came to know about this. They took all 11 women people to near by foot ball stadium and shot them all at the close. This is what they is written in Quran.. or Sharia.
This is just an example. Like these there are plenty
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by Rupakshi on Dec 11, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
I think you should read history. Islamic rule stated from Afghnistan. It started from 712 in the current Indian subcontinent. Until 1650, it was plundering ruthlessly. Despite conquests, as India was innumerable kingdoms, and all of it was Hindu. Horse riders could not eliminate all Hindus. But in the modern age, Pakistan could eliminate Hindus in less than 10 years. Kashmir, which is Indian rule lost the Hindu population by terror. Why don't you go and live in Pakistan or Bangaladesh?
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by imran patel on Dec 11, 2007 10:17 PM Permalink
Lets define "India" from an historic perspective...
My correction. I should have said "SINDH" that includes parts of Afganistan and Pakistan.
Islam was introduced to the south-east in 629AD.
During the period of early Rajput supremacy in north India, during the seventh, the first Muslim invasions were carried out simultaneously with the expansion towards Central Asia. In 664, forces led by Mohalib began launching raids from Persia, striking Multan in the southern Punjab in what is today Pakistan.
In 711, an expedition led by Muhammad bin Qasim defeated Raja Dahir at what is now Hyderabad in Sindh and established Umayyad rule by 712. Qasim subdued the whole of what is modern Pakistan, from Karachi to Kashmir, reaching the borders of Kashmir within three years. After his recall, however, the region devolved into the semi-independent Arab ruled states of Mansura and Multan.
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by Raju Dalit on Dec 11, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
IMRAN, YOUR VERSION OF HISTORY IS ISLAMISED.
BUT YES, IF MUSLIMS KILL AND BUTHER OTHER PEOPLE THRU THE HORRIBLE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL POWERS TO KILL, THEY TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR 'BRAVERY' WHICH WE CALL BRUTALITY.
THE COUNTRIES ATTACKED BY MUSLIMS ARE NEVER KNOW TO HAVE ATTACKED THEM. MUSLIMS GATHERED BIG MILITARY KILLING POWER AND USED THEM MERCILESSLY AND PROUDLY TOO.
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by deepak on Dec 11, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
LOL Muslims of india do not even know when their linage ancestor's start getting penentrating by the invaders.. They keep repeating Islam ruled for 1000s of yrs.. what foolishness...
RE:if wat hindus think
by Raj Royale on Dec 11, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
why is it that muslims cannot convert to other religions, in middle east and even in Malaysia or any other muslim country?
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by imran patel on Dec 11, 2007 10:13 PM Permalink
Muslims can convert to other religions in Islam. I know there is a verse in the Quran where Allah says to punish the converts. We need to take that in context. These "Converts" were not changing their religion, but were traitors and were providing intellegence about the Muslim armies to the Meccans. Hence they were executed.
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by Srini J on Dec 11, 2007 10:21 PM Permalink
u have shown ur true colors. If a person changes to Islam then it is good. And if a person from Islam is it traitors. That is what is know as colors of Islam. People can come into Islam but they are not permitted to go.
Go countries like Afganisthan.. I will show thousands of females who are not interested in Islam. Why .. the religion is barbaric. Go and ask. I stayed there for Six years for studying there cultures and Islam in Afganistan. Covered almost all of Afgan.
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by Srini J on Dec 11, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Yes man.. I can I wrote thesis on this UN. This in regard to study on welfare of woman in afganistan. The period was when Taliban was in its final years of rule in Afganistan.
I can tell a common thing there..
According muslim religion u can have four wives. They differ that.
One shaik has almost 11 wives all staying underone roof. What woman say is shaik comes to a house rapes the woman and takes her to his home and marries her. One day all these women got angry in rebound they killed him. Taliban came to know about this. They took all 11 women people to near by foot ball stadium and shot them all at the close. This is what they is written in Quran.. or Sharia.
RE:if wat hindus think
by deepak on Dec 11, 2007 10:20 PM Permalink
yes we realize that Quran is written with consideration to arabia geographic, and comtemporary reality of that time. it is an arabic imperialism... And people of Indian subcontinent has only taken to "wannabe arab" program..
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by Rupakshi on Dec 11, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
Imram, you can fool yourself. you can not fool every one on the planet with your explanation. Remember, Quran has to be taken literally, any type or interpretation, your head will fall.
RE:if wat hindus think
by Rupakshi on Dec 11, 2007 10:38 PM Permalink
What happened to Hindus in Pakistan?-I am the last to say all Muslims are brutal and all that. But majority of Muslim rulers had not tolerance. The problem is not that there are no great Muslims, but they do not control Islam. Once muslims are a majority, Hindus will have to run for life or convert. From Kashmir some Hindus could run to other parts of India. When whole India becomes Muslim majority where would Hindus run to?. Their little girs will be pilleged, their temples will be destroyed-not by the elite, but by the Mullahs. I refuse to believe Modi is killing any Muslims or even discriminating against them. If Muslims have to have the privilege of putting bombs or charring people in trains, they have no place in a civilized world. But I personally have to go to Gujarat, if it is true that some one is discriminated because one is a Muslim. If so, we need to correct it. individual interviews as this article is, will give a biased view.
