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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Avinash on Dec 11, 2007 03:06 PM   Permalink
The threat of death penalty for blasphamy. Mr. Wahaj, please don't try to fool us with Dr. Zakir Naik's line of argument. There are better educated persons than Dr. Naik!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Wahaj Faridy on Dec 11, 2007 03:19 PM   Permalink
For your info, I was an atheist within Muslim family till 29. I studied Islam as well as history seriously to learn what is what

No threat of Blasphemy law keeps muslims into Islam, it is model of Humanity that wins our hearts

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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Avinash on Dec 11, 2007 03:25 PM   Permalink
Dear Wahaj Faridy, I am also an atheist and I do not believe in the dogmas of any religion. I am 100% sure that capital punishments is awarded to those who leave Islam in any Islamic country. Pl don't repeat the same old cliche! We are also educated persons.

Btw, pl download and read "The Necessity of
Atheism" By Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg to clear your doubts.

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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Wahaj Faridy on Dec 11, 2007 03:37 PM   Permalink

Avinash, YOU ARE WRONG.

No capital punishment for paecefully leaving Islam. Cite a verse from Quran if you can that comes anywhere near to such decree. YOU CAN NOT

Sharia is extrapolation of quran, and some versions of them might have mistakenly decreed that.

For sure no such threat, theorettically, keeps muslims from walking out. It is bond of love from within

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by Ram Chauthariya on Dec 11, 2007 03:25 PM   Permalink
Model of humanity? Then why 50 nations are exclusive Islamic nations? Is not that a slap on the rest of humanity? Why have Hindus been killed and driven out of Pak and now Kashmir?

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by Ram Chauthariya on Dec 11, 2007 03:09 PM   Permalink
If you are brought up in a cult, it is hard to give it up.
But I know one thing for sure- if people of my religion killed civilians on a daily basis all over the world- I would call it a murderous cult and run away.

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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Avinash on Dec 11, 2007 03:11 PM   Permalink
Mr. Ram Chauthariya, you are saying so without realizing the fact. Islam is a one way road. You can convert to Islam but you cannot leave. The penalty for leaving Islam is capital punishment. Otherwise 90% of muslims might have converted to other religions or become atheists by now!

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  RE:RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Wahaj Faridy on Dec 11, 2007 03:25 PM   Permalink
another figment of imagination.

one, there is no such law

two, it at max explains muslim numbers, but fails to explain muslim behavior, that has earned them title of 'fanatic or fundamentalists'


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by Avinash on Dec 11, 2007 03:27 PM   Permalink
Mr.Wahaj Faridy, which country are you talking about? Of course there is no such law in India, but in all Islamic Countries, such a law exists!

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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Rana on Dec 11, 2007 03:29 PM   Permalink
Mr Faridy, then why don't you go to this website faithfreedom org, and read some of the articles. MAY BE, you will be better informed.

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  RE:RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Wahaj Faridy on Dec 11, 2007 03:40 PM   Permalink

I went to that sites years before you came to know of it. I learnt how, with impunity, they distort, mis-translate, mis-quote to prove their points.

They are bunch of BLUE LIARS out to corrupt minds of gullibles who are not exposed to counter position


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  RE:WHOLE WORLD TRIED BRING THEM BACK
by Avinash on Dec 11, 2007 03:35 PM   Permalink
Mr.Rana, he will not do anything like that. Dr. Zakir Niak has devised various methods to fool the ignorants. There are different ways to tackle those who are totally ignorgant, those who have some knowledge and those who have full knowledge on Dr. Naik's website. People like Mr. Faridy are using that tactic!

We have a story about a Goldsmith giving trade secrets to his son while on the death-bed. He tells his son - give ornaments of pure god to......(name of a particular community) and tell them that some portion has lost while making the ornaments, then give same weight (with impurity) to ..........(name of a particular community)....then the son asks .........how much I return to............(name of a particular community).........then the father shouts at him and asks ............if you reutrn the gold to....... what will you eat?

Similarly people like Mr. Faridy are out to fool the people without any knowledge of Islam!

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